LG V20

MLAVRA

There were some rumors at the beginning but it was never a confirmed large scale problem. No problems here after 27 months of using the V20. If you want to be on the safe side, buy a back cover to even the back of the phone (camera protrudes slightly) and to be sure that if it drops on the back, the camera glas will not be directly hit.

Anonymous

All smartphones from top reputable brands generally provide acceptable SAR values. If you are at all concerned about phone radiation, you really shouldn't be buying any 3G, 4G or 5G dual SIM smartphones. The faster the internet connectivity and the more the networks (dual sim), the more LTE bands supported (most flagship smartphones) and the lesser the wired options (no headphone jack), the greater your exposure to phone radiation. I would recommend the old 2G only SINGLE BAND, Nokia feature phones for you for the least phone radiation. Technology moves forward so from single band GSM phones, dual band and triband phones came next, then 3G and 4G LTE multiband handsets, and now, we're entering 5G era where we are literally surrounded by more and more radio frequency. In reality, if you are out in the sun often and live in a populous city with 4G/5G LTE towers nearby, chances are, you get more radiation from those sources than from using a specific LG V20 model.

Anonymous

If you're having problems with your V20 and you don't know what is wrong, you can always uninstall problematic apps using battery usage analysis. If it doesn't work, you can factory reset your V20, replace the battery with a new but genuine one, and replace the micro sd card with a new but genuine one. Fake micro sd cards and fake batteries are the usual causes for problems like yours in addition to misbehaving apps. If the problem doesn't go away after a factory reset, after installing a new, genuine micro sd card (class A2, V30) and after installing a new, genuine, OEM battery, then, you should have your V20 repaired at the official LG service center. If you bought your V20 refurbished or secondhand or not brand new, you may have a defective unit also. Either way, having it repaired by an official LG service center is the only solution. That, and of course buying a new phone.

Rimac

It's possible but in your unit and in a few units more.

Anonymous

The worst phone ever.The phone has overheating problem and freezes at time. I changed to LG G7thinq which does evening for me.

dimastp

I had read but forget which source. It's has writes about LG V20 and it's variant and the side effect, which one of the model has high radiation, but, once again, I forget which. So, anyone could tell me, because I was planning to buy one by the end of this year. Kindly give me a clue, guys. Many thanks :)

Rimac

The two V20 of mine after the intensely use of two years and half the first bought and three months less the second, both doesn't have notice of 'self shattering'of camera glass lens.

wsonique

Hey guys, I'm considering buying a cheap LG v20 as I can't afford a flagship phone currently but I'm worried about the self shattering of camera lens glass that was reported by some v20 owners back in 2016. I would love to hear your experiences with v20 in regard to my concern. 🙏

Rimac

I prefer the IPS /LCD natural colour (plus the result of mix it with GCam).

Anonymous

Now on pie Excited with the ui and the battery duration plus amoled look

Rimac

OREO was updated in the ordinary updating time. PIE is beyond of this time line.

Anonymous

no its true. there will be PIE. maybe this year. maybe next year. but sure come. that's what happened with OREO

Yuzbashi

of course not true, lg cares only for korean consumers.

Anonymous

Is it ture that H990 may get android 9 update? Personally i doubt it due to lg bad lg reputations when comes to software updates.

Anonymous

This app consumes too much energy

Anonymous

For ghosting/image retention, one can also use 'Color Calibrator' app by HalfCycle. Download and install it from Playstore, turn the upper right toggle switch to 'ON' and set the brightness slider (the 'sun' icon) located at the lowest bottom portion to around 10% to 20%. The lower value for mild image retention/ghosting while the higher one for stronger image retention/ghosting. You can actually choose any value which works best for your phone. Leave all of the other sliders to default (0%) unless if you want to adjust also your V20's color balance. (I use this same app to tame my tab's contrast to reduce oversaturation from the amoled panel).

PhantomAndroid

If you have a rooted phone with a custom kernel, this can be partially fixed through changes in the "screen' settings. Another option is to turn off the "second screen" when the screen is off. I use an app called "Glimpse Notifications" to basically have the same effect as an iPhone where the screen turns on automatically when I life the phone up to look at it.

PhantomAndroid

You might want to check the copper connections to the antennas on the bottom (around the headphone jack area) and on the top of the phone. If you take off the bumpers a lot, those areas can actually get bent up and have a weaker connection. That's what happened to me anyways.

ShelteredSkater

Pristine phone! It was and is to this very day. I well constructed and thought out device. LG did a fantastic job with cleaning up the LG V10 and LG G5. This phone redefined how we use our technology. The cameras, on the rear and front are all awesome! The removable battery, expandable storage and quad dac was what truly got this phone into your pocket. Not forgetting to mention that incredible display and somewhat premium feel in the hands. LG, you made a near perfect phone! One year worth of software support, no one is feeling that :(

Anonymous

You're lucky. My other V20 is still on Nougat with more than 2 year old security patch.

Anonymous

You probably have V20 variants that operate on LTE bands that do not match your network provider's LTE frequencies.

Jukeston6

A really decent phone, you get a removable battery, a headphone jack, IR blaster (Control any TV with your phone), and a very decent camera with expandable storage. Main issue with this phone is that I have 3 other V20s and they all have reception issues. Very unfortunate, because it is such a good phone but terrible design left it with very unreliable reception issues. I have had no service in some places while someone remarked they had full bars.

Darknight

There is no security patches since 1. oktober 2018. :( There is no Android Pie (9.0) :(

evilmessiah

To all Indian users of LG V20 who are looking for new batteries- The best option is getting an original battery. They are almost exclusively available from the authorized LG service centers. Most of them in metros would be keeping stock of V20 spares- I got a couple manufactured in August 2019 with GST invoice. Locate the nearest center near you from the LG India website, give them a call and if they are friendly, they would happily courier them to you. Online availability of spare batteries is bad here. Stay clear of sellers who claim to sell original LG V20 batteries- they are in all probability fake. While the good branded spare batteries from the likes of Powerbear, Zero Lemon, etc. are available easily abroad, they aren't easily available here or would be prohibitively expensive. Hope this helps in keeping your V20-s ticking for at least a couple of years longer. This phone's the last of its kind- a flagship that was built well with durability in mind. Features like the removable battery, hifi dac, dual 4G sim card slots with dedicated memory card slot, etc are consumer friendly. These traits are absent in the new flagships which are built nowhere as well and are much more fragile. Enjoy this piece of fine engineering while you can.

Anonymous

I don't experience it anymore ever since I installed Blue Light Filter app. Go back 4 pages earlier and copy the settings for Blue Light Filter app being mentioned in that page.

Anonymous

Ghosting or image retention in some V20's is a known issue. Search back previous posts from August 16, 2019 and apply the recommended fix stated there.

The wolverine

Me too getting this issues in dark theme or wallpaper kept it on white wallpaper so it reflects less like less then .01%

Gizi

Who else is experiencing image ghosting or image retention,,and which variant normally present with this defect

Anonymous

Good for you you have Pie. The rest are still on Nougat with others on Oreo.

Anonymous

I wish LG bridge would yield updates but no, it has already been the same story as OTA.

Anonymous

Micro sd will always have advantages that no cloud storage can offer. The cloud is like renting a hotel room or apartment or renting a car. Micro SD is like having your own home or your own car.

Anonymous

Update it from LG Bridge.

simple

Am now enjoying Android 9.0 on my LG v20 vs9952oc do the OTA update to enjoy the latest ui and best gaming experience plus battery life lg v20 still remain true beast with it Google camera night sight

Rimac

With the advance of possibilities in the cloud, is it possible that the microSD ceases to be complementary to the cloud ?

Anonymous

The other V20 variants that were never updated to Oreo will therefore remain on Nougat forever. How nice of LG to treat its international customers that way.

g6 user

it will brick it.... he will have to find then a boot img being oreo to so he can flash it. otherwise if his variant doesn't have oreo it is the end for his phone... you can only flash when the OS has the same variant I had luck with my g5 because I was able to get rid of a boot loop due to lack of os on it, I was trying to go back to 6.0 to see if a game emulator issue I had was a hardware issue or a software issue on 7.0 .... and I found that yes was an os issue .. but during the process my phone was dead thankfully to a usa variant ( bright point) rs988 same as mine ( usa unlock) I managed to flash 7.0 and then move to my 7.0 unlock variant re-locking bootloader again ...

Rimac

You are the conscience of the V20 forum.

Anonymous

Downloading an update not meant for your phone variant can brick your phone. If someone here who has an -ESA-XX H990DS V20 variant can confirm successfully updating their V20 from Nougat to Oreo using the official ROM for other H990DS variants, (Ex. using Oreo ROM from. AME-XX variant), then let me know if itbreally doesn't brick an unrooted, bootloader locked phone.

Rimac

Tell us the result of your maneuver. We will be grateful.

h7kn

lg's slow moves in updates are not a secret. i agree that V20 has superb capabilities which makes this device totally "unique". thats why we still use it with fun in 2010. mylgphones website is an official news source about LG devices and its hella true that LG V20 will get the Pie update in Korea these days. in the worst scenario we will get the Korean Pie update by downloading korean-based rom via LG Bridge. chaging language the only thing we willl do. its a very good news mate. cheers.

Rimac

I totally agree with your detailed description of the V20 wide range of possibilities. In favour of the IPS/LCD display I feel that the true GCam colour shining better I think than in comparison with AMOLED'S, P-OLED's or anyone of these kind of same base technology.

Anonymous

I've moved on from LG's FAKE promises. One of my V20's is still on Nougat, the original Android version it was launched with in 2016. It's still on Nougat even UNTIL now. My second V20 got updated to Oreo almost a YEAR ago. Again, I don't believe my V20 on Oreo will get updated to Pie. Will hold on to my two V20's even without software updates until they die. They're really the LAST of the flagships that's got almost EVERYTHING: removable battery with third party extended battery options, headphone jack, FM radio, a learning/programmable master remote control (IR blaster), dual SIM with dedicated micro sd slot for up to 1 TB (soon 2TB) expansion, selectable LTE band and selectable network mode (LTE only), option for hidden SSID during hotspot sharing, drop resistance, 4K wired video out support that matches TV displays' aspect ratio, OTG support with support for digital TV dongles (to transform your phone into a tv, no internet/data needed; currently not possible with USB 3.1) and OTG support for external drives/thumb drives/card readers, USB hubs etc., 16:9 aspect ratio screen for larger viewable photo area, long lasting, sharp and crisp IPS display that doesn't give me BLACK BARS or display CROPPING during wireless screen mirroring to a smart TV, IPS display that doesn't have nasty color shifts (during screen tilting) like in Amoled/P-oled displays, doesn't have screen flickering andvpermanent screen burn, and doesn't have fuzzier/less sharp display like in AMOLED/P-oled displays but is still sufficiently colorful and saturated like amoled displays (minus the deep blacks), superb audio, photo and video recording capabilities, option for always on second screen for always on notifications with minimal battery drain, and very easy repairability. In short, the V20 as I said more than 2 years ago, is bound to last for a long, long time. I expect it to last at least another 3 years more (6 years since it first launched). It's really a precious gem so many people ignored or failed to realize. Its price has since dropped to below $300, yet few are willing to buy it despite the rock bottom price, in favor of the newer, more expensive, all screen, elongated (18:9, 19.5:9) 'modern' upper midrange to flagship phones that have nothing to offer other than an overkill resolution megapixel camera, a hyped up but largely useless and mediocre telephoto, and worse, GUARANTEED obsolescence and replacement in a YEAR or two due to limited repairability and limited upgrade options and features (no dual SIM with dedicated micro sd slot, no IR blaster, FM radio, headphone jack, etc.). Enjoy your LG V20's while they last. They are the last of the truly consumer oriented, multifunctional, versatile, and REALLY SMART, smartphones that were NOT DESIGNED with rapid obsolescence/planned obsolescence in mind (not like the newer 'flavor of the month/model of the year' midrange and flagship smartphones nowadays).

h7kn

LG is about to launch android 9.0 for V20 in south korea. i hope the international variants will also get it in this year.

Anonymous

Yes, bluetooth signal can be erratic and causes are many. Check out this link: You can also check if the app update of your music service app caused the problem. Also, internet speed/connectivity can create bluetooth problems.

Rimac

I use since almost two years and half with the V20 the HK 'Onyx Studio' I, daily via Bluetooth without problems. Today doesn't worked at first attempt, trying with another and the same, repeating again with the first loudspeaker and . . . Yes. Can the Bluetooth signal be erratic like the WiFi ?

Anonymous

Yes, the V20 is OTG capable. It supports file read, write and transfers from thumb drives, portable external drives and card readers. Also supports USB hubs to allow wired mouse, wired keyboard, etc. Just be sure to buy/use the correct USB C OTG adapter as substandard/low quality ones don't work. Also, micro USB based OTG adapters will not work with USB C to micro USB adapter. You also need to use the correct app to read the contents of the connected OTG device. I personally use 'USB Media Explorer' app by Homesoft, LLC as it also supports NTFS file systems in addition to FAT32 or exFAT. The V20 also supports OTG based digital TV dongles to watch over-the-air digital TV broadcasts. Just be sure to buy the correct digital TV OTG dongle that is compatible with your country's broadcast signal (Ex. DVB-T, ISDB-T, etc.)

Anonymous

Can the LG v20 work OTG

Anonymous

On your V20, go to Settings - Network and Internet - Wifi Turn on Wifi, tap the 3 dots to the upper right and then tap 'Saved Wifi'. Delete ALL saved Wifi hotspot names until nothing is left. Try to reconnect to your wifi network, supplying the correct password.

Anonymous

The default camera app of the V20 should be used for video recording. The V20's default camera app can record up to 4K resolution. All other third party camera apps including Google's GCam cannot record videos in 4K and should not be used.

Anonymous

There’s a possibility that something inside of the phone got slightly disconnected if you dropped it. If not then maybe it’s a problem of the WiFi not reaching a certain room of the house. I don’t personally own the phone but my landlord does and he hasn’t had any issues with it aside from the battery.

Anonymous

There’s a possibility that something inside of the phone got slightly disconnected if you dropped it. If not then maybe it’s a problem of the WiFi not reaching a certain room of the house. I don’t personally own the phone but my landlord does and he hasn’t had any issues with it aside from the battery.

Rimac

The video recording with GCam, only in automatic of course, is disappointing in colour gamut, the same as the default. Or maybe I'm daltonic.

Pepe

I alse have the F800s and the same problem with SMS MMS. I own it for 4 month and have not found a solution.

Anonymous

did a quick search, turns out mine's the Korean variant so there's no other fix to the 160 characters limit except for using a 3rd party messaging app. I'm using the google messenger and it's all good now.

Anonymous

bought this phone yesterday and I love it! :D although, does anyone know how to stop the default messaging app from automatically converting long text messages? when I go over 160 characters it automatically turns it into mms. is there any workaround it? I've searched its messaging settings and can't find any that would relate to it. mine's the F800S model.

Girish

Guys thank you for your suggestions on the battery. Have another issue, my v20 is not connecting to my wifi at home and it is sometimes connecting and disconnecting by itself. Anyone else facing this issue? if so please let me know if there is any solution.

Girish

Thank you

Girish

Thank you

Girish

Thankyou

The wolverine

If in India try it from the service center i stay in Mumbai i got it for 746rs with gst original and hassle free just call them before gng. I got manufacturing date of April 2019

Rimac

To swap out batteries of different amperages / size is a point which the V20 makes the difference. Today with a 4.100 mAh model I've the slimmest but powerful V20.

Daniel m

how can i get access to 4200mAh Li-Polymer Battery for LG V20?

Rimac

The extended batteries that I commonly use was purchased at Amazon. If you are interested in the 3.200 mAh OEM batteries maybe you can find it also there. Otherwise you can try to find it in any online store.

Anonymous

have been using this one from Amazon for a while now and no complaints so far: LG V20 BL-44E1F Battery Replacement, SHENMZ 4200mAh Li-Polymer Battery for LG V20 BL-44E1F H910 H918 LS997 US996 VS995 - V20 Spare Battery

FatFreddy

I am using this 8200mah battery: With this backcover: It is bigger and heavier than stock battery, but no near as hefty as the zerolemon. Totally worth it.

Guy

I've had a V20 for a couple of years and use it constantly. I own three batteries and swap them regularly. It's a 30 second job, and having multiple batteries massively enhances its usefulness. Just order them from a reputable online supplier. Pick any brand with good reviews but NOT LG - as most things sold with "original branding" are fakes: you're better off buying something from a company prepared to put their own brand on it. I've had Perfine, Tothl and Powerbear without trouble. You can buy separate battery chargers as well, normally after-market "cradles" that'll take the phone plus one spare battery at the same time.

Anonymous

Maybe you bought the wrong model number, you know they're variants when it comes to band mode, each country has it's variant GSM band, please check your model number for your country

Girish

Hi guys just wanted to know if anyone has replaced the battery, my battery life is long gone and need to replace the battery. Should I just get it from ebay or are there any other trusted sellers out there. Please let me know

Rimac

Further information. Network technology : GSM / HSPA / LTE.

Rimac

LTE. Band 20 (800)

Kio

What network do you use, GSM???

Rimac

Yes, is the trouble with different versions, both, with the different phone networks and the OS Android updates too. The H990DS B&O also can get Oreo, here, in Spain.

Anonymous

LG V20 F800L Pie beta update has been released, I hope the international variant will get the update.

Kio

Oh cool. I'm stuck with Nougat...system says I'm "up-to-date"...but anyways, I think I just bought the wrong version. Where I live uses GSM and I got the CDMA one unfortunately.

Kofi Skavey

Thank you very much.

Rimac

Reading his angry post, with reasons, I remember the saying that God gives bread, - for me in this case, - to those who have no teeth, (not physical in this case). Sorry for your undeserved situation.

Anonymous

... worn out excessively. The more read and write a storage media experiences, the shorter the life. If you want internal storage to last long, use a huge storage micro sd card. At least, you can throw it away and replace it if it goes bad. Not so with internal storage. Phones without micro sd card slots are more about planned obsolescence and bigger profits than a truly better phone experience. Much faster file transfer speeds, yes. As long as you don't wear out fast the internal storage or fill it up fast, in which case, the phone is going to be replaced sooner than later.

Anonymous

My 64GB LG V20 has a total of 51.75GB available internal storage space of which I only used up 13.25GB for a total of 112 installed apps (including built-in apps). It is 25.6% full, with 74.4% free space available and my V20 runs very smooth and fluid. All media/personal/reference files/PC files/Microsoft office work files (Ex. photos, videos, music, movies, offline Wikipedia, downloads, etc.) are stored in my 400GB Sandisk micro sd card. Of the 367GB available space in the 400GB Sandisk, I've used up 157GB (42.8% full, 57.2% free). This setup avoids internal storage congestion which not only slows down the phone response but also adversely affects internal storage longevity, which, next to the battery, will likely wear out first. While you can replace the V20's removable battery, you can't do much to it's internal storage if it has worn out excess

Anonymous

Yes, when pigs fly. If my LG V20 H990DS (-ESA-XX) variant gets updated to Oreo (it's still on Nougat 7.0), maybe, I'll start entertaining promises again from LG no matter how FAKE and UNBELIEVABLE they sound. But until then, nope. Not in 1000 years. How can LG possibly provide Pie to the V20 when it intentionally ABANDONED many international H990DS variants with Nougat 7.0, the Android software version they were launched with in 2016? Enough said. LG mobile is the biggest LIAR in the mobile industry as regards Android software update support promises (that remain promises forever).

Rimac

I own two H990N, the first one since two years and four months and the second unit bought three months after the first one. I use two to special video edition purposes. Both units updated to Oreo since almost one year.

Kio

Hmm, mind telling which version you own, please? Because whilst some people say they have no probs whatsoever, there are tons of others on the internet complaining about the same problem I'm facing. And there are also complains of it just having bad reception due to build quality or whatever...Wish I'd get a solution for this tho, really like the phone. :v

Kurdistan

V20 is well known for strong signal I never had a problem with it

Anonymous

Download SwiftKey keyboard or Google keyboard and use it. Works better.

Anonymous

You may have bought a V20 variant that is not intended to be used for your country due to network incompatibility. What is your specific V20 variant, and what country are you using the V20? H990DS for example is not compatible with the US because some network bands used in the US are not available in that variant.

Rimac

Your issues with the signal commonly never appear. In two years and four months never I had signal issues. Moreover the V20 is well known by they sure and strong signal.

Anonymous

wha us the problem when the keypad is stop thanks

Kio

Anyone ever had signal issues? Where signal just keeps coming and going, but making a call just brings the "connection error or invalid mmi code" error?

lugs

where to buy in uk?

Anonymous

Blue Light filter app.

Anonymous

You're right. I tried clearing up the internal storage to 18GB free and it makes a difference to its still warm and does lag (at least its now useable). Thank you for your reply. I'll keep clearing stuffs to make more room for the phone and get a larger microSD card at my local store. Guess I'll keep using this one till its last moment. Thanks again and sorry for the late feedback. Cheers ✌

Anonymous

Very simple really. No special or technical knowledge needed! Just download and install 'Blue Light Filter app' by 'Leap Fitness Group' from the Playstore. Keep it running in the background to eliminate image/screen retention. As long as 'Blue Light Filter' app is running in the background whenever your phone on, you'll never have image retention/ghosting in the V20--- EVER! Don't worry, the app is 100% safe and has practically no effect on battery life, no effect on processing power/speed and doesn't consume memory/storage/data/wifi. You won't even notice it running in the background because you won't see it in the recent apps list. The only permission you need to provide it is 'draw over other apps' for its screen overlay to do its magic of banishing image ghosting/screen retention (for as long as it is running in the background). Suggested settings for Blue Light Filter app for elimination of screen/image retention problem in the V20: Night Mode: toggle 'ON' Color temperature: 4500K (Tap 'sun and clouds' icon and tap 'OK' when prompted it is not good for sleeping) Intensity: 3% Screen dim: 5% Set auto timer: toggle 'OFF' Notification bar: toggle 'OFF' That's it and you're good to go. You may increase or decrease Intensity % and Screen dim % depending on the amount of screen retention that you have. Higher % for stronger image/screen retention and lower % for milder image retention /mild ghosting. It normally remains in memory doing its magic unless some memory intensive app kicks it out from the background, in which case, you may need to restart it.

Kofi skavey

How do you fix the screen retention and screen burn issues without replacing the screen??

Anonymous

LG V20 confirmed to get Android Pie in Q3 2019 Source: mylgphone.com

Rimac

Aged 74, I don't believe in miracles.

Anonymous

I wonder if the rumors are true that the V20 still will get android Pie after all, did hear any thing about that?

Ian Dallas

I agree with you on the screen problem , I had to deal with the same thing but it's not a big deal , just put some strong glue on the back of the screen and you will be fine

Rimac

I agree with your opinions on the V20, but not with your 'glue' experience. After my use of two years and four months, I think that better than the battery swapping, extended batteries of 6.400 - 6.500 mAh is a better option. Of course the use of the GCam to photography, (better than vid), is a 'must' to any discerning photo amateur.

Kurdistan

I have this phone right now using it to write down this ccommen let me tell you my experience with it the camera is great , original camera for video recording and the gcam for taking picture the screen is amazing the second screen is really useful too the battery is short but you can change it any time you want the cons are the build quality is just terrible , the glue that holds the screen just can't keep up with it , after 6 month and it scratches very easy , be careful with it still for this price , this is much better than new midrange smartphone

Rimac

Reading that Google has developed manual mode to their GCam, I think that with the algorithms developed by the user on their photographic profile makes their own "profesional level", if the exigency is not the highest.

Anonymous

Yes, the 'slow motion' feature on the ported GCam app doesn't work. It's one of the modes/settings that were not finished or polished by the developer as he moved on to another phone and project. Still grateful though because of the time and effort these developers spent to reprogram Google's GCam app with Night Sight so it can be used in other phones like the V20. Just download another app from the Playstore for slow-motion effects since the GCam for V20 doesn't have a working slow motion feature.

Rimac

Abusing his kindness I dare to ask why the slow camera of GCam doesn't work. P. S. : i don't know what meant and the function of 'slow camera' ('cámara lenta').

AnonD-267221

Thank you for your reply.

AnonD-267221

Thanks for detailed explanation.

Anonymous

The lag you mention that makes the phone unusable is not normal. The phone does respond a bit slower than usual when busy downloading movies to micro sd card as downloading on mobile data is very processor and memory intensive and micro sd write speed is way much slower than when writing to internal memory. But it should not lag like hell and render your phone unusable in any way. You may experience a little stutter, or a bit slower response to touches, but certainly still nowhere near agonizingly slow or unusable. If you experience this downloading to internal storage, your internal storage may be nearly full causing the severe lag. Move files to micro sd card and leave internal storage with free space of around at least 40% free space. Now if you experience this severe lag downloading to micro sd, you may be having a micro sd storage problem. It's either the card is defective or fake (with fake capacity causing the severe slowdown), or if genuine, the card is almost full. Either way, you need to replace the micro sd card with a brand new, genuine one, with higher capacity. A word of caution: online shopping sites are riddled with fake micro sd cards with fake, overstated speeds and fake capacities causing severe lag problems with any phone. If you bought a huge storage card for so much less, (more than 50% less) than what the card manufacturer sells in their official website, there's 99.99% chance the card is fake.

Rimac

A wide range of extended batteries are available. Personally I prefer the 6.400 mAh models. I only know the MUGEN POWER of 9.300 mAh, preserving the NFC function.

Anonymous

Just change to an extended battery. 6500mAh should be best. Or buy a new 3200mAh battery, preferably original LG OEM battery or from another reputable non-LG brand if you can't find a genuine OEM LG battery. A warning note: The online market is flooded with lots of fake, OEM looking like LG batteries. If the battery that came with your phone is not sealed in original manufacturer's packaging (translucent plastic with tamper proof paper seal), the battery that came with your phone is likely used or fake.

AnonD-267221

I bought it 1week ago new package everything is great, but only problem is battery life is very short, any tips how to make battery longer? Thanks in advance.

Rimac

Thank you so much again. Paradoxically your always detailed explanations driving me sometimes to dizzying at first sight for the concepts of 'ported GCam', 'Portrait' and 'Night sight'. But always was easiest than I can would imagine.

Quad_DAC

Does anyone experience warm and extreme lag (unusable) when downloading files like movies via browser or games from Google Play? Even opening and switching apps sometimes slow down. Still running stock 7.0 firmware tho since Oreo update kill the high bitrate video recording.

Anonymous

What I meant is that yes, you can use ANY photoediting app to edit ANY photo including sharpening and blurring and color adjustments of captured photos. However, those other photoediting apps like Aviary, cannot do automatic adjustable level of background blur while maintaining a sharp face focus for photos taken by GCam in portrait mode. If you capture a photo using 'portrait' mode in the Gcam ported app below, you will actually get two photos per shot. The first photo is the original photo (face and background are sharp), while the second photo, is the internally processed photo with sharp face but blurred background. Every time you shoot in 'Portrait' mode using GCam app with Night sight mentioned below, you will always get two photos. One with sharp background and another with blurred background. Now what I'm saying is that in the two photos captured by GCam above, the background blur can still be adjusted if you want sharper face and more background blur. You can edit background blur using Google photos. In Google photos, there is a 'depth' slider/setting. You can move the 'depth' slider to the left to make the background less blurred. It only affects the background. The face remains sharp and in focus. You can also move the 'depth' slider to the right for more background blur. You can only do this kind of automatic background blur adjustment in Google Photos app. As mentioned, other photoediting apps like Aviary cannot do this same level of adjustment to background blur like Google photos. Again, this background blur adjustment only works with the dual photos captured by the ported GCam app mentioned below. Background blur or 'depth' adjustment is only possible when using 'Portrait' mode in the ported GCam app with night sight below.

Rimac

I'm surprised when you say that isn't possible other editing app than Google photos. I'm use pleasantly AVIARY since long time ago. And at present mostly to shooted photos with GCam 'Portrait'.

Anonymous

Yes, it really is the best for low light photography. Perfect for nightscapes and sceneries where there is not much movement/motion in the scenery.

Anonymous

You're welcome. GCam also has a portrait mode. You can capture your subject with a blurred background. After capture using 'portrait' mode, you can edit the photo captured in 'Google photos' (not possible with other photo editing apps) to increase the amount of background blur.

Rimac

I agree with you about the preference on the natural light. Especially the sunsets achieve a theatrical féerie but anchored in the nature, (many times including human constructions).

MLAVRA

You are right Rimac, it is absolutely fantastic software. It makes several photos and takes the best out of them to make a colorful photo masterpiece. Better than postcards and other filtered photos. It works best with static objects, without artificial lights. But you may also try to combine static objects and moving lights (e.g. cars with headlights) to get beautiful effects. Thank you Anonymous for drawing our attention to this piece of software.

Rimac

Google Cam night sight mode performs a sort of enchanted poetry specially at twilight time. Undoubtedly the best App to this purpose.

Rimac

I totally agree with your detailed explanation (the V20's capabilities should be detailed) on the V20 wide range of possibilities. Let me say that my first need buying a phone was top quality audio recording and music playing. Bought one unit, discovered the photo and video quality and the remaining . . . , and the second unit bought (to special video edition purposes). I apologise for the inconvenience of my little english, as belonging to a guy from the bottom country on this skill.

Anonymous

Yes, I agree. I've had several smartphones in the past. I usually changed phones in 6 months to a year as I always found something better within a year or less. The V20 is the only smartphone that has stayed with me this long and despite newer, more powerful, and more gorgeous looking all screen phones around. I just can't let go of my V20 because I really find it difficult to forgo the features that I am regularly using and currently enjoying and that have spoiled me through the years: removable battery that makes me do away with carrying a charging cable or being tethered to a wall or charger which severely limits my mobility, dual sim with dedicated micro sd card slot that satisfies my need to have two of the best network plans, while still having unlimited offline movie downloads, personal media files and high quality music in the micro sd card, slimport/HDMI out support for when I need to watch on a big screen TV anywhere I go without loss of quality, headphone jack and FM radio when I prefer listening to local FM broadcasts without worrying about earbud battery life or bluetooth exposure from wireless earbuds, master remote control availability with learn functionality that I use every single day for various appliances everywhere I go, LTE only option with ability to manually select and stay on a less congested LTE band of my choice for the best download and streaming speeds, ability to hide hotspot SSID when I share my mobile data connection to other devices without anybody knowing, excellent camera, excellent audio quality, drop resistance, accurate color, high quality sharp QHD display, that lasts longer and retains excellent display quality despite years of use (unlike POLEDs or AMOLEDs), drop resistance, etc.

Anonymous

Wow that's a great deal. Elsewhere in the world, it would be difficult to find a brand new V20 anymore. The Zenfone 6 is for those who can't get the V20 anymore (no longer available) or those who want a newer, more powerful phone that doesn't have too many feature compromises.

Rimac

I think that if you are ready to stuck at Nougat, undoubtedly is the best choice.

Anonymous

one point regarding your recommendation: the cheapest Zenphone 6 I can find now is $500+. I just ordered a brand-new V20 ( sealed in box, Verizon) for $120. And for anyone still questioning the battery life, besides the quick charge feature, a replaceable battery seals the deal. A spare battery is cheap, easy to carry around, and you go from dying phone to 100% charge in about 30 seconds, no charger needed. (I miss my Galaxy S5!)

Rimac

Thank you so much for your clear information as I am accustomed in your posts. I hope more shared experiences among the maybe only two owners of V20 by duplicate.

Anonymous

The ported GCam app with Night Sight for V20's with Oreo can only be installed by sideloading a GCam app made for the V20 by independent developers. You can't download or install it from the Google play store because the version in the Playstore is the original GCam app designed by Google for use in Pixel phones only. For the V20 (only for those that were updated to Oreo) you need to download "NoHex_MGC_6.1.021_MI8_V2a.apk" and install it in your V20 phones. You need to enable "allow installation from this source" for the GCam app to be installed. Again, I'd like to emphasize the GCam for the V20 apk, "NoHex_MGC_6.1.021_MI8_V2a.apk" only works with V20's that have been updated to Oreo. It doesn't work with V20's that are still on Nougat. Here's the link to the "NoHex_MGC_6.1.021_MI8_V2a.apk" file installer:

Rimac

Since I've my both V20s updated to Oreo and after reading your post, I'm surprised that Gcam warne that the device isn't compatible with it. Any suggestion of your experience would be highly appreciated. Thank you in advance for your help.

Anonymous

Nope. My H990DS phones are both unlocked. It's LG mobile division's fault and nobody else's why many H990DS international unlocked variants were never updated even once. Born with Nougat 7.0 and will die with Nougat 7.0. Good thing I have the -AME-xx variant. It got updated to Oreo and I can now take excellent low light photos with Google's GCam with Night Sight, plus a beautiful Portrait mode (blurs the background, adjustable blur in Google photos), plus an HDR+ mode and panorama mode that are so much better than the V20's default camera app, thanks to developers who ported GCam with Night Sight to LG V20's on Oreo. The GCam port with Night Sight only works with Oreo so my other unlocked H990DS V20 phone (-ESA-xx variant) doesn't have the excellent GCam port with Night Sight and is stuck with horrible low light photos.

Anonymous

Could be your carrier's fault. If it wasn't for these jerks and Google's shitty management, OS updates shouldn't even be a problem.

Princedede

There's update for h990ds. Or u can search for the kdz. H990ds i s currently on February security patch with Anqdroid 8. Or u can root to install a stock rom android 8. Android 9 is also coming for our device.

Anonymous

It's because of LG's horrible, discriminatory software update support. Many LG H990DS international variants were never updated even once so they will die with the Android version they were launched with (Android 7.0 Nougat). I should know, because I have two H990DS international variants of LG V20. The first one - ESA-xx, never got updated to Oreo even until now, while the second one, - AME-xx got updated to Oreo last December 2018.

Anonymous

this is a very nice phone.... almost 3 years old and works fine rarely occasional freeze but that's no problem

Hako

Android 9.0 update will be come in 25 september

alex

My LG V20 has not been updated and still on nougat 7.0. (living on security patch) I have a H990DS. Why is that so? TIA

Anonymous

As it turns out LG will update this phone to Pie this quarter.

Cybermachiavelli

The first set of specs. Although the second set has an octa-core processor (8 cores), the speed is slightly slower and the top specs have two separate processors, each with 4 cores. The GPU is better and the Adreno chipset is much newer and better.

Rimac

I think that if the S. O. Android updated afterwards Oreo, (even stuck at Nougat), doesn't signifie something relevant, a specially good phone doesn't suffers too much by the updates absence.

Daniyal

No it isn't, i'm using LG V20 from last 6 months and battery timing is not that bad.... Normal use will leads you to cover 24 hours approximately... although u have to charge at day end.....

Anonymous

The V20 off course. No doubt about it.

Rimac

Problem solved using an extended battery choosing the amperage that you want. Some of them even with NFC function, due to the contacts on the cover for it.

Anonymous

The battery on my phone runs fine if its not 100% on (Meaning LTE on but no bluetooth / expensive Backgroung app running). It can hold Deezer with LDAC bluetooth for about 6 hours. It charges fast tho.

Nats97

Besides all of its positive aspects, the only that ruin this phone is it's battery timing, I've heard that it lasts only 5-6 hrs even if you don't use continuously. Is that true ?

Ahsan

Battery ?

Mad Max Asif

What's different between in Chipset : Qualcomm MSM8996 Snapdragon 820 (14 nm) CPU : Quad-core (2x2.15 GHz Kryo & 2x1.6 GHz Kryo) GPU : Adreno 530 (LG V20 4/64) Chipset : Qualcomm MSM8953 Snapdragon 625 (14 nm) CPU : Octa-core 2.0 GHz Cortex-A53 GPU : Adreno 506 (xiaomi a2 lite 4/64) which one best by Core & Chipset?? which one performance so fast?

MLAVRA

No no no, there is no any intention to confront anybody. I believe that we essentially said the same thing. I support 100 % what you previously got from Anonymous. I just gave a little more explanation. And when I wrote it and read it, I saw that the text might sound somewhat confusing. Therefore "clear as mud" refers only to me. Sorry if this was misunderstood.

Rimac

(Clear as mud). I think that my limited knowledge should not serve as a means of confrontation.

MLAVRA

Audio signal on 3.5 mm jack is high quality analog audio signal, converted from digital by using LG's quad dac. It requires decent loudspeaker or headphones in order to feel the difference. If the source is flac, that will be even better. Signal via bluetooth is digital, of average quality if standard modulation is used. You might need a very good audio equipment, with codecs on par with LG's quad dac in order to squeeze out something decent. V20 with OREO supports LDAC modulation (Sony standard with higher bit rates) over bluetooth. In order to hear the quality, you will need a Sony system or Sony bluetooth headphones that supporr LDAC. Again, digital signal should be flac or similar. Clear as mud ;)

Anonymous

I'd like to add that if you are still getting residual image retention despite using Blue light filter app, you may need to adjust/increase the intensity to 3% (or highe) and/or increase screen dim to 5% (or higher). The higher settings are applicable to V20 units with very strong/severe image retention.

Rimac

Thank you so much for your clear information. Since long time I use H /K 'Onyx Studio' (Bluetooth and an unit with wire capability) and a DOSS 'Soundbox XL'., and I'm relatively satisfied with source of Deezer Music that I presume isn't FLAC.

Anonymous

Would just like to clarify. Burn ins are permanent and you rarely see them in LCDs, not like in P-oled or Amoled where they are always given. Temporary Screen retention, ghosting or image retention however, happens with both types of displays (oled based or LCD). With LCD displays, they go away (temporary) but with Amoleds/P-oleds, they always progress to more serious permanent burn-ins.

Anonymous

In low light, F/1.9 on the V20 will give you the advantage of faster shutter speeds or being able to use lower ISO's (which means less noisy photos in low light situations) than what the G6's F2.2 aperture can give you. In bright daylight, there's not much difference between the G6's F2. 2 aperture vs. the V20's F1.9 aperture other than slightly greater background blurring/bokeh/portrait effect on the V20 than on the G6. If you are asking which of the two offers a better selfie camera, then it's the V20 over the G6. However, I wouldn't recommend both if you are a heavy selfie user. 5 megapixels, fixed focus selfie cameras without optical image stabilization on both the V20 and the G6 render them rather limited for selfie photo capture. I'd recommend selfie specialist phones instead. Things to look for in a very good selfie camera phone: large aperture (F/1.8 or larger), 10 megapixels or higher for better image resolution and better images even when cropped/digitally zoomed, autofocus capability (not fixed focus), optical image stabilization, and ultrawide capability (to get more people in the photo even without using a selfie stick or panoramic stitching). Dual selfie cameras (one ultrawide and the other a regular wide one) would be ideal for more photographic selfie flexibility.

Anonymous

You won't notice much difference if the external loudspeaker is a low powered or small one with no deep bass reproduction capability. Wired connection is for audiophile grade equipment that can reproduce a sufficiently flat frequency response from 20Hz to 20kHz with minimal total harmonic distortion (less than 1% THD). Small Bluetooth equipped loudspeakers are not able to reproduce the complete audible audio spectrum with sufficient quality, and so, you may never hear the difference between wired and wireless connection. Also, the music/source audio should never be mp3 or some other low quality source. The music/audio material needs to be audiophile grade: one with lossless compression (like FLAC, ALAC, WMA lossless) and ideally, mastered higher than a CDs' 44.1kHz 16 bit sampling. Preferably at least at 96kHz 24 bit, up to 192kHz 24bit.

Rimac

Someone knows why switching from Bluetooth to wired I doesn't appreciate change in the sound quality of the loudspeaker ?

uvuvwevwevwe

in a photography standpoint, it depends on how you want the result to be. bigger aperture(Smaller number EX. f1.8) results in a brighter image and a more blurry background, smaller aperture (Bigger number EX. f8.0) results in a sharper image, more details in the background but would not be helpful if there aren't plenty of lights. but for phone cameras specially in daylight, it does not really matter since the camera app can just compensate the shutter speed and ISO even if the aperture is fixed to.. lets say f1.9 to get the proper exposure

noobmaster69

I know aperture effect on how the light gets to the inside. But which aperture is best for the daily light situation?

noobmaster69

Hey dude, you just back from the endgame ^-^ ok then, i was confused from choosing between the LG v20 and LG G6. I see the spec that told the front facing G6 camera has a F/2.2 aperture instead the F/1.9 on the v20. Which is the best for ya?

Thor

No

noobmaster69

Does this phone has dolby vision?

Anonymous

The update's existence does not guarantee that an old phone will be able to run it with any decent speed...

Anonymous

i am using at&t model oreo outside usa. network or internet (4g drop to e) keeps losing signal and searching, happens quite often but only for a few seconds. its not sim card problem, i tried another phone, no issue, signal never lost. i tried a few settings in the *#*#4363#*#* but no avail. anyone have this issue and manage to solve?

Anonymous

Does Asus compete with LG when it comes to customer abandonment? First Nougat phone out of the box. Only a few updated to Oreo and will NEVER ever see Pie. And now, a totally glued in battery on the Lg G8 ThinQ.

Anonymous

Burn in shows up even if you have filter apps when you pull down notification bars on Oreo because google changed something. And on the button at the bottom as well. Only there and disappears afterwards. Still annoying.

GG

There i android update 8.0

Anonymous

Both True and False. True because many H990DS V20 variants never got updated to Oreo: They launched with Nougat and will most likely die with Nougat. False because other H990DS V20 variants got Oreo last year. Whether or not your V20 gets updated to Oreo depends on whic H990DS regional variant you have.

MLAVRA

Got it on December 20th 2018, works well!

Rimac

'The game has been done', I presume.

noobmaster69

Hey man, i heard a rumors that tells the H990DS model of this phone can't get the oreo update. Is that right?

Rimac

Someone knows why, using the V20 the day along intensely, every day, during two years and two months, doesn't appear any symptom of image retention ?

biau

I'm recommend iblue, small application for fix screen retention.

Rimac

A positive point of the V20 is the 16 : 9 screen ratio, when at present with ratios of 19 /18 : 9, means seeing, with this 'cucumber' displays, non-existent 'Todd-Ao' images of video or photo.

Anonymous

The V20 also has one of the lowest SAR values (very well below maximum safe level). The screen retention issue is immaterial because first, not all V20's have it and second, if you do have it (like one of my V20's), it will be gone forever and will never come back for as long as Blue light filter app is installed and running. The Blue light filter app really is invisible. It is a very lightweight app and not something that you'll ever notice even if it is running all the time in the background. It uses practically insignificant resources - practically no battery drain, data drain or RAM drain. If you have simple needs and not after a lot of useful features, the HTC may do well for you but really, there are lots better and cheaper options than those HTC phones you mentioned like the Pocophone F1 for example, if you don't want the V20 because of fear of getting a unit with image retention.

Jeanne

Choosing htc is a dealbreaker.

Rimac

Another point positive of the V20 is the 16 : 9 screen ratio, when at present, with ratios of 19 /18 : 9, mean to see, with 'cucumber' displays, unexisting 'Todd-Ao' images of video or photo.

Anonymous

I was about to buy this phone, but reading about the screen retention is a dealbreaker. I think i'll go for htc 10 or u11 which both have a low S.A.R and no screen issue.

Anonymous

Blue Light Filter app' by 'Leap Fitness Group' suggested settings for elimination of screen/image retention problem in the V20. Night Mode: toggle 'ON' Color temperature: 4500K (Tap 'sun and clouds' icon and tap 'OK' when prompted it is not good for sleeping) Intensity: 0% Screen dim: 3% Set auto timer: toggle 'OFF' Notification bar: toggle 'OFF'.

Anonymous

Rooting may not be for everyone so for those who want an easy solution to screen retention issues on some V20 models (like my B&O V20 which has very pronounced image retention), the Bluelight filter app will do wonders. Just search it in the searchbox in this forum for the recommended sertings.

Rimac

Clear and complete explanation from an experienced person. I'm convinced of it.

Anonymous

Yes, for those who want an alternative to the V20, and want almost all features that made the V20 popular, I'd recommend the Asus Zenfone 6: -It's got dual sim and DEDICATED micro sd card slot like the V20. -It's got a huge 5,000mAh battery which is a good substitute to not having a removable battery because let's face it: there are no more new flagship phones with removable batteries anymore and the next best thing to a removable battery is a huge sealed battery - at least 5,000mAh. Anything less than that in a sealed battery phone is mediocre considering 4,000mAh+ has become the new standard nowadays it's becoming so common. -The Zenfone has got an excellent flippable dual camera so the selfies look as good as those taken by the rear cameras because well, the same cameras are being used: you just flip the camera from back to front and vice-versa! A 48 megapixel f/1.8 main shooter should satisfy those with pixel envy and those obsessed with selfies. Imagine, 48 megapixel selfies! What's more, there's 4K 60fps video recording option (the V20 is only up to 4K 30fps); - The Zenfone 6 has got FM radio and headphone jack, hurray radio and music lovers! - It's got an excellent 24 bit, 192 khz audio, so audiophiles rejoice! - It's got long lasting IPS display so you never worry about short lived display life that gets permanent screen burns like what happens with P-oled/Amoled displays; - It's got Snapdragon 855 with 6GB to 8GB of RAM so it's a powerful beast! fast, smooth, fluid that's not going to slow down anytime soon. - 64GB to 256GB internal storage options too! But really, why bother with those more expensive, higher internal storage options when it's got a dedicated micro sd card slot? Just buy super cheap sub-$65, 400GB Sandisk micro sd card, or the 1 TB card and you'll never worry about having only 64GB internal storage space! What's more, you get to save by buying the cheapest storage option with practically zero compromises (not much difference between 6GB and 8 GB RAM options). I guess the only things lacking are the drop resistance, slimport support, second screen and remote control function. Drop resistance can be compensated by buying heavy duty protective casing. Remote control, well you can buy an IR blaster USB-C accessory and use ZaZa remote app from the Playstore. It won't be as good as the V20's built in and learning capable remote, but hey, at least it can now control many popular appliances using the Baseus remote accessory: The second screen will be surely missed though I believe not a huge deal breaker. The slimport support, well let's hope the Zenfone 6 has MHL support so that makes HDMI wired connection a non-issue. (MHL and slimport do the same thing: wired USB C to HDMI out for connecting to TV for maximum audio/video quality with zero compression). - Hidden SSID for sharing your phone's mobile data with your other devices without other people knowing the hotspot exists, would be welcome, but I'm sure, not a deal breaker. - LTE only option: Based on my experience with Asus, they tend to allow it by not locking out access to Android's hidden data connection options (unlike Samsungs and Huaweis), so likely, it will also have this LTE only option available. So there, very minimal compromises compared to other flagship phones. Get an Asus Zenfone 6 64GB if you want a new flagship phone and don't want to spend wastefully on a brand new, extensive feature set phone. I'd even recommend it above the much more expensive Huawei Mate 20 or P30 Pro, or even Samsung's Note 9 or S10 5G phones or even LG's V50 Thinq 5G phone. The only time I'd recommend those more expensive phones is if don't care about many of the features of the Zenfone 6 and just want to waste money. Xiaomi's Pocophone F1 or other cheaper Xiaomi flagship phones are recommended over the Zenfone 6 only if you have limited budget. But if you have the V20 and it's still alive and not giving you any problems, then would recommend holding on to it. The Zenfone 6 is for those who can't get the V20 anymore (no longer available) or those who want a newer, more powerful phone that doesn't have too many compromises in features like other flagships which only have hybrid slots, no headphone jack, no FM radio, just barely above average batteries (4000mAh+), etc.

Lu

Please be aware that many, if not most, V20s have severe ghosting / screen retention issues. This can be partially solved by a combination of rooting the phone to use a custom kernal with color controls and taking the phone apart to replace the thermal paste. When I say severe, I mean "I can still see most of the keyboard on the home screen 30 minutes after typing this" severe.

BARYE

love the LG V20 -- replacable battery, nice screen, good cameras, 1Tb SDcard, accurate fingerprint id, And I love the IR blaster -- works on all my devices

Rimac

To those interested in an alternative to the V20, the taiwanese ASUS (Zenfone) means an option to consider.

Rimac

Two V20's features are highly appreciated for me, both at present sign of lower class phone : the IR blaster and FM radio.

Rimac

All kinds of the updates for the V20 are a sort of mockery.

Ali

guys, what kind of update you are talking about?

Anonymous

guys, what update you are talking about?

Anonymous

new downloaded musics showed up a few hours later tf!!!

Anonymous

the new update- why are there 2 lock screens??? so annoying

Rimac

Simplifying we can think that LG mobile division is a bunch of mad. Yesterday, May 27 I received in one of my two V20 SW update referred to the phone usage. First update since Sept., 18. And the habitual used phone has a January update. Despite this kind of updates service (?) the two units are irreplaceable tools to audio montages in certain videos that I make.

Anonymous

That's great. Unfortunately, while your -SEA-xx variant of the V20 already has Oreo and got a recent security patch update, many variants like my -ESA-xx V20 is stuck with Nougat and January 2018 security patch. LG really sucks with updates. The worst phone manufacturer when it comes to updates. Because of this horrible update track record, I don't see it ever gaining improvement in sales even if Huawei phones were to permanently lose Google's Android software support.

DonSing

Oreo -8.0.0 security patch for LG H990DS version V20B-SEA-XX updated on 28/05/2019 in Singapore.

ïrk

LDAC and HDAC (bluetooth) features are great, infrared remote, battery too !! 8.5 sur 10

Rimac

Sorry but I was been too short explaining. The matter is bootloop issues with LG models produced before the V20., and specially as you say with extended and / or alternative batteries.

Anonymous

No. I don't have bootloop with genuine, original OEM LG V20 batteries. My experience was with a third party battery.

Rimac

Respectfully to your experiences with batteries, I'm skeptic that the previous bootloop issues of the V20 model would been only by the original battery.

Anonymous

I have two V20's and none have a bootloop issue. However, there are documented cases of LG phones that bootloop due to bad battery and I can confirm this to be true based on my own experience. This happens when the bad battery cannot cope up with the peak power requirements during the phone's peak demands. The bad battery shuts down the phone even when it is FAR from being low battery (90% full) while playing processor intensive games or while using wifi or mobile data or playing videos, sharing files, etc. After the sudden shutdown, the high battery demand is gone and the phone automatically restarts. However, as soon as it restarts, the bad battery gets stressed again (peak battery demand) and so again shuts down the phone. Once shutdown, phone again automatically restarts and so you have a bootloop condition. I have confirmed this to be the case when I swapped the bad battery with a good one. (I have two V20's and swapped their batteries). After the swap, it was the other V20 that was now suffering from bootloop while the other one no longer had bootloop. Swapped the batteries again, and the bootloop was back to the first V20 as it now had the bad battery. Therefore, the only way out of this bootloop from my experience is to throw away the bad battery and replace it with a good one. I did try to plug in the phone (with the bad battery) to the charger as a workaround but then, you can't be plugged forever just to assist the bad battery during peak power demands. Besides, it is a safety risk and may burn or explode or worse, damage the phone. I therefore had to dispose off the bad battery and the problem is solved. Just a caution though. There are lots of fake batteries around that look like original OEM LG V20 battery but are not. Be sure to buy only really genuine ones or buy a good quality third party regular capacity or extended capacity battery designed for the V20. That's it and I hope it helps other phone users (not only LG phone brands) who are experiencing bootloop. I'm sticking with my two V20's and don't see the need to upgrade to new phones so it's likely I'll still have them for another 3 years and they'll likely still be working perfectly like they are now, thanks to future proof features (removable battery, 1TB micro sd expansion with dedicated micronsd card slot + dual sim, headphone jack, ir blaster, FM radio, high quality audio, photo/video, drop resistance, etc.) Haven't found a worthy successor to my V20's that offer the same feature set. I'm going to truly miss them if they die or become disfunctional.

Rimac

There has never been information in this forum of a V20 customer affected by this issue.

Rayhan

Is there any bootloop issue for this phone? Pls help...I'm willing to buy..

Rimac

Since the LG market procedures after V20 goes through the 'correct obsolete way', a step back would be very bad accepted by the competence.

noobmaster69

Korean F800L

Anonymous

before i got oreo i also thought there's no update but finally it came after a year of anticipation. i am having a gut feeling there WILL be another albeit last update for V20. Maybe even next year. Still better than nothing

Rimac

The easiest way to storage video and photos to seeing on TV screen is a double size connector USB - C, 3.1 sort of pendrive with 64 Gb., can be enough for ordinary users.

Rimac

It's the best that you can buy, accepting be stuck at Nougat. But by the price at present it's a gift.

Chi

Please which version is upgradeable to Oreo and has B&O audio?

Donald

Please I am about to buy a V20, I need to k

Anonymous

I wouldn't recommend it as it could brick your phone. You may try asking the same question in the LG V20 xda forum. Here's the link:

Asker

Is LGV20 H990T ROM can be replaced with VS995 ROM? Because i can't find an oreo for H990T while VS955 has. Oh btw, in my motherboard it says VS995 model while i checked in my phone it says H990T. Dont know which one is my true model....

Anonymous

I don't think there will be a Pie. Maybe for Korea models only, but elsewhere, nope, never. LG has broken its software update promises a million times already. One of my V20's is still on Nougat, the software it was released with almost 3 years ago while my other V20 got a VERY LATE update to Oreo December 2018 last year. Kind of sucks because Google's GCam with night sight makes the V20 a camera powerhouse but only works with Oreo software. While the V20's main camera and its built in camera app is already excellent having manual camera controls, a fast f/1.8 aperture and excellent detail retention, it doesn't have the newer 'software magic' the recent 2019 flagship phones have: auto fake blur/fake bokeh, night modes, photosphere and improved panorama and HDR performance. (The V20's default camera app isn't very good in HDR scenes; it still clips whites and crushes shadows and it doesn't have a night mode.) The GCam with night sight app (version 6.1) changes all that. With the GCam port for the V20 with Oreo, you can now enjoy fake blur using the GCam's portrait mode, and you can even adjust the blur level after taking the photo with Google photos. With the GCam, you can get vastly better low light shots with night sight, better HDR photos and better panoramic stitching. Add to that the Open camera app (compatible with older android versions) and the V20 becomes a photographic powerhouse. Again, it sucks because GCam with night sight only works on Oreo. I guess the only thing lacking is a real optical zoom as the V20 has got only 2 rear cameras, but really, telephoto is rarely used by phone users so it's likely you won't miss it at all, or miss it as much as ultrawideangle and regular wideangle cameras in phones. Add to that the V20's extensive feature set (dual sim + dedicated micro sd slot for 1TB storage expansion), learning remote (IR blaster), drop resistance, removable battery, FM radio, headphone jack, second screen, etc. and you'll have a phone that will last you another 3 years.

Anonymous

I wonder if Lg will update the v20 to android Pie?

Jaiden

I actually very much appreciate the removable battery. I was not expecting that on a phone this new and expensive!

Rimac

I don't know the G6 camera, although isn't possible that the G serie improve the V's.

noobmaster69

Thanks Rimac. Oh ya, which camera is best between those two by the way?

Rimac

The V20 has more functions than anyone in the market. Their strongest point is the audio followed by the image at short distance. Gaming has a decent rol here but isn't the most suitable phone for this purpose.

noobmaster69

Ok then. In the meantime, i'm confused about choosing between LG G6 and V20. I want to buy it to be my main phone. And use it for gaming and other hardworking task. And photography of course. Please tell me which best! I don't care for the phone design, cause i just want the best experience when use it.

Anonymous

Nope. Not all V20's have screen retention issue. Many V20 owners have never seen it. I however, has one V20 that has strong screen retention that was solved with Blue Light filter app. My other V20 doesn't have any.

Rimac

Unfortunately. But doesn't have this issue my first unit which was bought two ✌️ years ago. The same my second unit which was bought four months later.

noobmaster69

Are all of these phones in the market have the screen retention issue?

Anonymous

Yes, it's a good phone with some units having screen retention issue that can be solved by using blue light filter app from playstore. Search here using search box above for 'blue light filter' app settings.

Rimac

Yes, is 'commun'.

Anonymous

Is it a good phone? Is screen retention a commun issue?

Anonymous

Would suggest the 'NoHex' Gcam port with night sight for V20's with Oreo (NoHex_MGC_6.1.021_MI8_V2a.apk). It has no major issues and supports both portrait mode and night sight for the ultrawideangle and regular wide angle cams of the V20. The other Gcam ports with night sight that I've tried had serious issues. In particular, one port (MGC_6.1.021_MI8_V1d_fu24-01f.apk) caused other running apps to close and caused the settings app to repeatedly crash (force close). Had to reboot to uninstall it (before the settings app starts crashing). There are other ports I haven't tried but the "NoHex" one is already very good that I don't feel the need to explore the other ports for now.

Anonymous

Yes, it's well known to photo enthusiasts. 'Night sight' is really excellent for V20 users who like to capture very low light photos without thinking about what manual settings to use (the app is full auto). The low light photos captured using Night sight on the V20 is short of outstanding. From my comparisons with Huawei P30 Pro, it really beats the P30 pro in terms of detail retention. However, as earlier stated, some ports of the app can cause settings to repeatedly close and other apps to force close. Others may experience less problems or worse depending on the phone and the exact Google camera with night sight ported app being used.

Anonymous

Just a word of caution though. Some of these ported Google camera apps with 'night sight' can cause settings amd other running apps to stop. ('settings keeps on stopping'). In this case, just uninstall the app and try another Google camera app port for the V20 or use Open camera app.

Rimac

Your experience with the Google camera (night sight) on Oreo and with Open camera App., well know to photo enthusiasts, is a good new to get full benefits of the audiovisuals great that the V20 is. To share this experiences is an important point of this forum. Thanks for share it.

Anonymous

Good news to those on Oreo. I've tried the Google camera port (with Night Sight) for the V20 and it works pretty much like the one on Pixel phones. Unfortunately, the port doesn't work on V20 phones still on Nougat (for Oreo only). I still prefer Open camera app used with manual settings (under HDR mode) for low light though as its faster, more customizable and compatible with Nougat up to the latest Android version. Those who don't like to use manual settings may prefer Google camera with Night Sight though. Here's the Google Camera with Night Sight apk link for the V20:

Anonymous

You won't be able to use the original back cover if you use a thicker, extended battery. The thicker battery will come with a back cover of its own which you'll use with the V20.

unix

ZeroLemon 10,000 mAh battery works really well with the LG V20. I get between 24-36 hours of runtime on a single charge. It does gradually decline in capacity after 9-12 months but even when 1.5 years old it has greater runtime than the OEM tiny battery which is almost worthless IMO and should be kept for an emergency. The other benefit of the ZL 10K mAh battery is that it makes the phone ticker and thus much easier to hold.

Rimac

Because isn't the V20 cover.

Miranda

How can you fit a thicker battery and still have the same cover? There must be something I'm missing. I'd definitely like a better battery as well as a thicker phone! Thanks

Rimac

I only know the MUGEN POWER of 9.300 mAh with suitable contacts in order to preserve the NFC function, but maybe too bulky for Miranda.

MLAVRA

Can you use NFC with those covers for big batteries? If Miranda just wants a cover, there are some pretty good Chinese Nillkin back covers which provide a good grip and, also, level camera lenses with the rest of the phone surface thus protecting them from being scratched.

Rimac

I recommend you strongly a 6.300 - 6.500 mAh battery in order to have a suitable thickness.

Miranda

This is the most slippery phone I've ever owned. It'll be a miracle if it lasts until the grip cover arrives. I really wonder why mfrs go backward with things like that and Android moving the 'Clear All' button away from the controls. (I'm not able to upgrade my Android version now.) And why on earth are phones so preposterously thin now? Makes them so much easier to break. This one is barely thicker than a piece of paper. Interferes with battery power/function too. Well that's all I have today ;)

Miranda

Thanks for both of your bits of advice. My knowledge regarding cell phones is quite limited so it's very helpful.

evilmessiah

Had been using H990DS for almost a year now. Upgraded from a Redmi Note 4. Prior to this, I used to have an LG Optimus 4X which was an absolute dog even though it had a nice build and a sweet screen. Likes: 1) Fantastic audio quality with good headphones. It's even better than some dedicated audio players. Main reason for me getting this phone. 2) Separate dual SIM slots and a microSD slot. Can use my work and home SIMs in one phone. Automatic call forwarding from one SIM to another. The hybrid SIM/SD card slot in my old RN4 was a major irritant in this regard. 3) The screen is an upgrade from the RN4. Glad that this one is a proper 16:9 screen with square corners instead of the silly tall aspect screens with the rounded corners. 4) Not a huge photography buff, but I can see that this phone can take seriously impressive photos in the right hands. 5) Build quality is fantastic. Love the solid heavy feel this has. None of that pansy glass sandwich crap going on here. 6) Removable battery is a major, major plus. 7) Latest Oreo update hasn't slowed things down or caused any battery drain. Seems pretty stable and smooth.Though LG is late with the updates, the software seems to work well. Way better than the crap that was in the Optimus 4X. 8) I like that this has QuickCharge 3 and USB Type C. Dislikes: 1) Battery Life is poor since I'm coming from the RN4. FWIW, it is worlds better than the Optimus 4X which had useless GPS and also used to heat up at the slightest load. Switching to Battery saver mode is essential to make it through a day of reasonably heavy calls. Having multiple batteries is more like a necessity if one is going for a trip. Finding new batteries is becoming a chore, though. 2) Curved screen is an annoyance. Sticking on a screen guard that is case friendly is also a challenge- the sides peel off and trap dust. Didn't face this issue with the RN4 which even though it had a curved screen and a case too. 3) Audio can be muffled or indistinct in calls since the screen is big and if we move our mouths away from the base for even a bit. Could also be that I do not speak loudly :D 4) Second screen is nice and all, but since I'm mostly in battery saver mode which turns it off, I wish that real estate was used for the main screen which would have hopefully made it a 6 incher. Verdict: Call me old school, but I like my gadgets well made and lasting for quite a while. I used the Optimus 4X till it died. The present smartphone design landscape doesn't sit well with me- it's all show and not much utility. The glass sandwich, the notch/water droplet/ punch hole, tall screens with rounded corners, axing the headphone jack and SD card slot are all steps back. A polycarbonate or a well made metal body with a proper 16:9 screen, good audio, nice battery and storage options make a great daily phone for me. That's what the V20 is- a solid, rugged, dependable phone that's good for multimedia creation (this can be a pretty good photograper/ videographer's phone.. when the battery dies, just swap in another one) that was thoughtfully designed and made to last. I'll be using my V20 till this dies or when the smartphone designers come to their senses and start adding some genuine utility instead of this notch and folding nonsense.. (unlikely, though)

Anonymous

As for the smooth back, just buy one of those leather cases and it shouldn't slip as easily as the bare phone.

Anonymous

In V20's with Nougat, 'Clear All' is stupidly located all the way near the top. But if you happen to upgrade your V20 to Oreo, its already conveniently placed at the bottom near the navigation bar.

Miranda

"Lg in flagships war!! have need to many surprise if "Survive" is important for Lg mobile part !!!" Just one of many completely incomprehensible posts in this thread! Or is there something I'm missing?

Miranda

Hi, I'm new to this phone and a couple of the design choices mystify me, coming from the V10. First, why did they revert to a smooth case back, after the grippy material on the V10? This one falls to the floor if you put it on most any surface. Fortunately I have padded carpeting, and I've caught it each time anyway. Then, why is the CLEAR ALL button so far away from the Home Touch Buttons? Since that's something I do a hundred times a day, it's dismaying that they've made it more difficult and time-consuming. Previously the two buttons were immediately adjacent, which makes sense since they're used in conjunction. Is there any way to remedy this? TIA.

Ali

Don't be so optimistic, Lg may change their mind in a blink.

Anonymous

Great News, LG backtracks on its stance, promises Pie for the ignored LG V20, although it will not be until the third quarter of the year.

Zimmer

The SD card supports up to 4TB. I have a 200GB in mine and I could put a 512GB in it if I could afford it.

Rimac

Although I was fortunate to get OREO to my pair of V20's, I would be feel also pleased with Nougat since that the most important is the phone. I subscribe entirely your post.

Anonymous

Nope. There's no bootloop issue with the V20 not like the G4 which had a large portion of early production units suffering from bootloops due to poor soldering quality. Just buy the V20 brand new or if used, from someone reliable. That way, you'll have no hardware issues.

Anonymous

Yes. Taiwan and Korean models were the first V20's to be updated to Oreo while the rest were updated 2 years later. However, many others were never updated.

Leader

Hey guys !!! Sorry i didn't know where to comment so i just replied to another one :) Does anybody know if lg V20 have the same hardware issue like G4 series. I know its one of the bests but itd become nothing but a high-end piece of trash :( if u have to deal with the hardware failure

Anonymous

Love my V20 H990DS too despite zero android version updates. (It's stuck with Nougat 7.0, the software it launched with, in 2016). It will be 3 years old late this year but I have a feeling I'm going to have it for 3 more years for a total of 6 years. My Powerbear 6500mAh extended battery used with this phone is really spoiling me. No 2019 phone/phablet can still quite beat its endurance and stamina with the 6500mAh extended battery attached. The battery doesn't sacrifice portability and pocketability (not like those 10,000mAh extended batteries). I also love that despite having no 5G, 4G+ is still very fast for my streaming and downloading needs. And the dual sim + dedicated micro sd card slot is making me download as much Google and Netflix movies at my home wifi, as much as I want, for watching anywhere, on travels, vacations, etc., no data required. 400GB micro sd cards are now so cheap and soon those 1TB cards will become affordable too. No storage shortage whatsoever even if you record at the highest bitrate 4K video for hours thanks to the dedicated card slot. The slimport functionality is just excellent too for the best 4K video playback on a large screen tv anywhere (defeats wireless screen share in video quality and fluidity everytime - except in tge area of convenience - no wires needed). And the 4K video quality at low to medium ISO's is just astounding and excellent that I never want to record Full HD videos anymore - ever. The camera can capture excellent low light photos too using manual modes. The manual focus and manual shutter speed (up to 30s) really helps. The audio recording and playback features are without comparison. Lots of manual audio settings too that enables the experienced user to control microphone directivity and gain for that perfect concert recording every time. And the headphone jack audio quality and built-in FM radio makes for a pleasant all around entertainment and listening experience online or offline. And oh, I love my master remote too. I really can't imagine losing my all-in-one, always with me, cable, tv, aircon, appliance, etc. master remote in the V20. (It's got an IR blaster that can learn/clone IR based remotes) . Also love that the V20 allows hidden hotspot so nobody asks for my hotspot/wifi password when I'm sharing my phone's mobile data to other devices. And lastly, that LTE-only mode that keeps the V20 data connection stay on fast 4G connection without automatically switching to 3G/WCDMA whenever the 4G signal is weak in an area I'm in. And oh, that second screen that's always on and contains my favorite shortcuts and can display short greetings and emoticons, as well as notifications. Nothing quite like it. The 16:9 QHD IPS display has remained very good too - no loss in brightness, no permanent screen burn and no color shifts after all these years not like in amoleds after years of use. I guess the only thing it doesn't have is a major android software update. It's a good thing I bought two V20's. The other one got updated to Oreo. But really, Nougat or Oreo, I'm staying with my V20's and won't be buying a brand new smartphone in the near future. Will use the money instead to buy a 79" 4K IPS LCD TV soon or perhaps buy a new dSLR camera/lens or mirrorless interchangeable lens camera system. No point for me wasting money on new disposable flagship phones that cost a fortune and die with their sealed batteries yet don't even have half of the features/functionality my V20 has or is able do.

Hersir

I have a H990DS TWN and got Oreo update last year so you can slightly expand the top list...

RunCheetah08

I used this phone for almost 2 yrs and still thought it's good. The battery may have degraded over the time. But, replace it easily, and voila I got the same battery performance 2 yrs ago. The design may be seen obsolete, but I found it unique. LG put their design style waaayy to good in V20 so the phone still looks great in 2019. The military grade make me want to stay with this phone. The glass, camera, or inside hardware never caught a problem even though i dropped it a lot. Love this phone a lot

Anonymous

Good for you. Lots other V20 variants haven't received Oreo at all and are stuck with Nougat - most likely forever. V20 variants updated with Oreo: H990DS IDN H990DS AME H990DS AUS (needs confirmation) H990DS AGR (needs confirmation) H990DS GCC (needs confirmation) V20 variants still on Nougat (possibly no Oreo at all given that they're already more than 2 1/2 years on Nougat): H990DS PHL H990DS VNM H990DS ESA H990 single sim (Israel, South Africa) H990TR (Turkey) US996 U.S. Cellular Factory Unlocked US996 H910PR (Puerto Rico) Source: MORAL LESSON: Don't ever buy an LG phone especially international variants unless you are absolutely OK with ZERO android software updates.

tintin

v20b-ind-xx

Anonymous

Go to settings - > Apps and notifications - > App info - > Smart Doctor - > Storage Tap 'Clear data', tap 'OK'. This will reset the app to factory installed settings.

Anonymous

It's expected of LG's horrendous and atrocious software update support. Many international V20 variants were never updated at all! They're still on Nougat 7.0, the exact same Android version they were released with almost 3 years ago (2016)! If LG can't even update all V20 variants to Oreo, what makes anybody think there will ever be a Pie?

Anonymous

LG V30, V35, and V40 are expected to get Android Pie within 3 months, V20 is out! Source :https://www.xda-developers.com/lg-v30-v35-v40-a­ndroid-pie-q2-2019-kernel-sources/

Anonymous

Yes, but only the US models LS997 (Sprint), US996(US cellular) and VS995(Verizon). All the other international variants don't support it.

Thepanist

Does LG V20 support CDMA network?

alex

My LG V20 smart cleaner crahes or closes involuntarily? What is/are the problem/s? TIA

Anonymous

You may have the wrong V20 variant what LTE bands is your network using and what V20 variant do you have? They need to match.

Anonymous

It could be defective. Have it repaired.

Terry

LTE and 4G not working, phone defaults to HSPA.

ElmerA

Crashing of front camera .

Anonymous

Problem of front camera crashing in my unit.

Anonymous

Oreo update just now? What's your regional variant? Go to Settings - System - About phone - Common - Software info - Software version to know your regional variant. It is something like: V20a-___-XX

tintin

Just got an automatic update to Oreo on my LG-H990ds today, finally. From India.

kisna dr

Lg v20(H990-DS) Indian version got a softwere update today. A proper softwere update. Nugut to Oreo.

Kisna dr

LG v20 (H990DS) Indian version, finally getting an android update. Almost after 2 years of using this device, when I was about to jump the ship, this update came.

Anonymous

Yes, the V20 captures more fine detail than even the latest, most 'advanced' multi-camera equipped flagship phones of 2019. Check out GSMArena's photo compare tool. Pay particular attention to the fine detail retention in sponge Bob's, and Lincoln's face in the 5-dollar bill: V20 vs. the '2019 DXOmark smartphone camera king' - the P30 Pro (40 megapixel and 10 megapixel outputs): V20 vs. the iPhone XS Max and Note 9: V20 vs. the Mate 20 Pro and S9+

Anonymous

There's a hundred file managing apps available in the Playstore if you hate LG's built in file managing app. I personally use Files app by Google and CM File Manager HD by Cheetah Mobile for my file transfer/file management needs.

bigdaddy

Simply terrible interface to file manager

Anonymous

You may need to check your phone settings: If the above doesn't work, try a full factory reset. If it still doesn't work, you may have a defective V20 unit. Have it repaired at a service center.

Anonymous

it is only displayed on secondary display

Chu

I recently started using LG V20. My problem is the Screen is never awake to see incoming calls or while making or taking calls. I have to wake up the screen manually with the power button. Any help with the settings?

Whackcar

It's astonishing how much detail the V20 captures. LG used to put such great cameras on their phones, then they downgraded to the generic crap. :S

Anonymous

Sorry got the G6 display wrong. It's also IPS (not amoled like in the V30) so it's good to have if you value phone longevity. (The G6's sealed battery may not be as easy to replace though (assuming the battery is still available) and the replacement process will take a toll on water resistance - not to mention you may have to leave your phone to the technician for a few days until the repair is completed.

Anonymous

I'd pick the V20 every single time over the G6 if you can still get the V20 brand new. What the G6 does have is a marginally improved processor (snapdragon 821 vs sd 820 for the V20), a 128GB internal storage option for the G6, (the V20 maxes out at 64GB) and water resistance for the G6 (although shortlived) which the V20 doesn't have. The G6 also has amoled display if you prefer oversaturated colors and deep blacks in exchange for shorter display life and faster display deterioration from permanent screen burn in. What the V20 has over the G6 and many other newer LG phones that came AFTER the V20 are the removable battery option (best taken advantage of by purchasing and using 6500mAh extended batteries, or by purchasing and using multiple spare OEM batteries with external charger accessory), an IR blaster with learn mode, a dedicated micro sd slot for dual SIM models (expands storage without giving up the second SIM slot), a bigger, wider screen, (the diagonal may be the same between the G6 and V20 but photos and videos are actually bigger on the V20 due to its 16:9 aspect ratio) and the presence of a second screen in the V20.

Rimac

Choose the coolest through the postmodern thought, 32 Gb.

Furiounx

Wow thanks for your recommendation! But I need a new phone so I'm going to need a phone. I'm split between the G6 and V20 as they're the same price but the G6 has 32GB and the V20 has 64GB.

Anonymous

Check out GSMArena's photo compare tool. Pay particular attention to the fine detail retention in sponge Bob's, and Lincoln's face in the 5-dollar bill. V20 vs. the iPhone XS Max and Note 9: V20 vs. the Mate 20 Pro and S9+ As for bokeh, the V20 produces real bokeh from its f/1.8 lens. It's not as blurry as those in the newer phones with fake bokehs but you can capture in RAW/DNG mode and postprocess the images for 100% better looking bokeh than what you can ever get with in-phone processing... or, you can just download and app to get better fake bokehs from the V20. But seriously, my recommendation if you are at at all serious about bokeh, portrait photography and image quality in low light: Get a dSLR with an F/1.4 lens for 1/3 the price of most flagship phones and get that REAL, perfect bokeh in any lighting conditions that no smartphone can even remotely claim to come close to. If anybody (including smartphone manufacturers) claim otherwise, be warned it's a promise as FAKE as the fake bokehs their phones produce. Speed? The V20's snapdragon 820 processor has plenty of speed it is no longer as speedy compared to the latest phones that have more speed than is actually needed for Facebook, Youtube, Gaming and other media and multimedia consumption stuff. You actually buy phones with the fastest processor speeds because of the bragging rights you get - not really because it makes phone multimedia consumption and enjoyment a lot better. Actually, the battery life/capacity and the screen size and resolution are more important things to consider when buying a phone nowadays as processor speeds are already fast enough even for midrange phones. Besides, buying the latest and the fastest phone is like buying a race car and using it primarily on normal city traffic (Facebook, Youtube, browsing, etc.) It's good to feel to have 'extra speed' and 'power' but it really doesn't make sense unless you are using your phone more than 50% of the time in heavy, processor and graphics intensive gaming and other atypical phone activities. If you do, you better have the battery capacity and large screen size to make the experience with a faster processor truly better. Otherwise, a midrange processor with huge screen and huge battery will give you a waay much better gaming experience and enjoyment than some snapdragon 855 processor in a phone with a cute screen and small battery that dies at the peak of your gaming enjoyment and excitement.

Furiounx

You have this phone? I'm looking to upgrade in the coming months. How is the primary camera performance? Can you take bokeh pictures? Is it's performance sufficiently snappy? Thanks in advance!

Anonymous

Nova launcher is the best launcher not only for the V20 but for all Android phones including Google's Pixel phones. The gestures for Nova launcher Prime (premium add on to the free Nova launcher) makes every android phone truly your own.

Rimac

I think that is a good option Nova Launcher. I use it pleasantly since the beginning of the V20 use.

Anonymous

I want to know your thoughts about the best stable launcher replacement for the v20, with regards.

Kingslayer

Never had a bootloop problem. This and the G5.

RPH Odyssey

This is so well said. Life's not so Good without proper updates. I got 1 SEA variant, 1 HKG variant, and my first LG V20, purchased in the Philippines, an ESA Variant. First 2 are on Oreo 8.0 - the Philippines ESA South East Variant is "still being tested" for compatibility with the LG V20, according to LG Philippines. A joke - and a huge, final disappointment. No LG cell phone ever again. NP There are so many attractive alternatives.

Anonymous

List of V20 variants which were never updated by LG mobile to Oreo: Those interested in buying an LG phone in the future: BE SERIOUSLY WARNED! This is a taste of how horrendous and discriminatory LG's software update support is. Buy a new LG phones only if you don't care about ZERO Android software update support.

LG V20 user

I've had the V20 for 2years and when the root was found I was able to mod the thermal996.conf file so it could play games without it throttling the GPU, charge at full speed while using the phone and push stereo sound through the front speaker made this like a whole new phone. My next phone will definitely be the LG V35 cause theres no other upgrade path coming from such a great phone.

Jameden

If only present day phones have the same removable battery feature. :/

Anonymous

I mean 40 degrees Celsius and below is ideal. However, most phones routinely reach 45 degrees Celsius during operation and it's still normal especially when the phone is streaming/using mobile data for a while, about an hour or being used in heavy gaming. If you use the phone actively, gaming with mobile data on while the phone is charging, you may get higher than 45 degrees and its still normal though you wouldn't want to do that often as it's not good to the phone and battery life.

Anonymous

All smartphones become warm when using mobile data or gaming. It's a normal processor thing. It won't get too hot because there is such a thing as processor throttling where it won't get hotter anymore. Now if your phone gets too hot like 40 degrees Celsius, then something is wrong with your phone. The lithium ion battery is probably defective or shorted and you need to replace it. The good thing about removable battery is you can replace it. Otherwise, you will have to throw it away as it can explode.

MLAVRA

Hey Anonymous, you might think that this is funny and perhaps you are having fun when trolling about V20 "bootloop" but this is neither funny nor interesting anymore. It is becoming more and more difficult to find and buy a new V20 so less and less potential new owners meaning that your "bootloop" blah blah becomes irrelevant.

Rimac

My first V20 get almost two years (anniversary May 5) free of bootloop and image retention. The second, purchased three months later, the same. I think that my circumstance is unique. P.S.: the first V20 working hardly all day long. Daily.

Anonymous

Look, there is no bootloop problem with the V20. The V20 was released October 2016. That makes it just above 2 years old so nobody can possibly have owned it for 3 years.

Hp3

Why my v20 gets hot on the Internet after a few minutes ?

Anonymous

What about the bootloop problem found in the LG v20 Do you use it for 3 years and did not show you this problem?

Anonymous

Never ever so far

Anonymous

The only REAL issues that SOME UNITS (not all) of the V20 have are: 1. Screen ghosting/image retention which can be solved using Blue Light filter app, 2. No Oreo update for some V20 variants and 3. Trolling from other flagship phone owners who are envious of the V20's features.

Anonymous

Bootloop problem? Who told you that fake news? Search this forum for 'bootloop' and you will see it was never an issue or problem with the V20 since 2016.

Anonymous

Really? You also have - ESA-xx variant and got Oreo via LG bridge? Seriously, I got tired of checking weekly via LG bridge for the Oreo update for my - ESA-xx variant since December 2018 up to February 2019 but still no Oreo be it LG bridge. Maybe in March 2019? Sorry, like Pie update for those that got Oreo, its wishful thinking.

Rimac

Yes, those who has used the V20 since Sept. '16 has been affected by this issue. That's why the forum is full of complaints about the bootloop issue.

Anonymous

LG Bridge is not hard to navigate. Do it.

Anonymous

Great points. It is the most complete phone ever, in my opinion. I am thoroughly impressed by it's performance and features. Even today's flagship are hard-pressed to compete. Absolute gem.

Anonymous

What about the bootloop problem found in the LG v20 Do you use it for 3 years and did not show you this problem?

Anonymous

Well put bro. V20 for life!!!

Anonymous

Couldn't agree more. These 6500mAh extended batteries for the V20 (PowerBear, Hyperion, Perfine, etc) that V20 owners are using are really liberating. Not as heavy and bulky as those 10,000mAh ones (Zerolemon) but still gives you more than a day of heavy mobile data and gaming use with no portability and aesthetic issues. (10000mAh extended batteries like the Zerolemon are really difficult to adjust to both in bulk/pocketability and looks [takes away beauty] but they serve their purpose in camping, long travels, etc). While many newer flagship phones already caught up with 4000mAh minimum battery capacity, 6500mAh extended batteries are still in a league of their own. Best of all, you can have two for the V20 and swap them when empty. That's 13,000mAh! You'll never ever have battery anxiety again!

Anonymous

It is 2019 but still there is no single phone which can replace my V20 with the same specs like: IR blaster, card slot, removable battery etc., which you will not find all in one in the market, I got even more loyal to it buying an extended battery Hyperion and case for it , It is a beast and gonna serve for at least another 3 years

Anonymous

But we'll miss you! :-P You've been here trolling the V20 since 2017! Besides, you need to stay here until 2021 or 2022 as it's the only way to know for sure if V20 users are still using their V20s for the multitude of features they bought it for, which you call 'lowly' and 'outdated' technology in 2017: FM radio, IR blaster, removable battery, dual sim with dedicated micro sd storage expansion, 3.5mm jack, etc.

Rimac

Can you please tell me if any shining flagship of 2.016 reach 'Quiche' healthy ?

Anonymous

Let me get this straight. The V50 Thinq has got almost everything the V20 has except the IR blaster and removable battery. In exchange, it has 4000mAh battery and a faster processor plus other improved specs. However, I want an IR blaster in my phone and at least 5000mAh in exchange for a sealed battery (currently spoiled by my 6500mAh PowerBear battery in my V20) so no, I WON'T upgrade. Besides, 4000mAh is so common nowadays so I'm sure, 5000mAh will easily become available in flagships a few years from now. The Mate 20 also has got almost everything the V20 has except a dedicated micro sd card slot and a removable battery. Like the V50, has 4000mAh battery and higher processor speed and other improved specs in exchange for absence of removable battery. However, I always use dual SIM and the nano card is still not widely available (and no huge 400GB storage) so no, won't upgrade. Also, I want no less than 5000mAh if the battery is sealed as I'm spoiled by my 6500mAh PowerBear battery so no, I won't upgrade to any of the two despite them being close enough to the V20 in feature set. I'd buy any of them though if I didn't have the V20 in the first place. But since I have the V20, both should have 2 more improvements for me to dump my V20: 1. At least 5000mAh sealed battery in exchange for the V20's removable battery, and 2. An IR blaster for the V50 or a dedicated card slot (with at least 400gb storage option) for the Mate 20. Maybe their successors will have them in a few years. Until then, I'm sticking with my V20. See you in 2022.

Anonymous

oh no, you sure showed me. ok ok I'll make a new deal and let's see if you guys can live up to that one: I won't post if you guys don't complain, ok? So that means no more posts about lack of updates, "why my V20 stuck on nougat", etc... only happy posts going forward!

Anonymous

I've never twisted the rules. The features that the V20 has are that aren't available in current flagships are the reason I'm not upgrading. See you in 2022 then. Don't worry, we'll still enjoy our V20's in as much as you will still be envying them here.

Juste

You can even triple your "lol", you will still give a forced lough here. Nobody is silly enough to get duped by such a sore... user. Chances are quite a number of V20s might very well last up to 5 years. Someone who does not even own the device but is keen to check in to have his hopes dismissed in 2021, while putting a twisted smile on his face, can hardly be called successful, can he ? ;)

Anonymous

Change the rules all you want I will be super disappointed if you guys aren't on this forum in 2021 still rocking your V20's and bragging about how "great" they are even in 2021. It's only been a little over 2 years and looks like cracks are appearing and you're only almost at the half way point of a 5 year usage cycle. Some of you I think even got your V20 in 2017 which technically means you need to go until 2022. Trust me, it will be much easier for a non-V20 user like myself to come here and check in on you than it will be for you guys to actually use a V20 for 5 years hahaha :-P Good luck!

Anonymous

Nope. You got it wrong. Will be using my V20 for as long as it is alive and functional. Not upgrading anytime soon unless it's rendered obsolete or useless because: 1. It's dead. 2. Android Nougat/Oreo can no longer access and install apps from the Playstore (like gingerbread, ice cream sandwich), or 3. Some technological change renders majority of its features unusable or non-operational. (Ex. micro sd format becomes obsolete, FM radio broadcasts are shut down, IR blased remotes and ir based appliances are no longer produced, LTE is phased out, dual sim use becomes irrelevant, 5000mAh and larger battery capacities become available in flagship phones, etc. or 4. A true successor comes along that has everything the V20 has except for the removable battery (in exchange, it has to have at least 5000mAh battery).

Rimac

For my use, malicious, it is enough to the '22, Oreo for two V20's.

Anonymous

Hey hey hey, remember you guys have to use your V20's until 2021 so no point in even thinking of buying a V50 or Mate 20 (unless you want to buy a V50 or Mate 20 in 2021 hahah, hey at least they'll be super cheap by then).

Rimac

You are right. Huawei is smart and knows that there is a segment of consumers who want the functionality of the V20, will give it and with specific updates of Android and SW.

Anonymous

There won't be a Pie for the V20. LG wants V20 users to upgrade instead to the V50 Thinq 5G which already has Pie. I doubt though if the V50 will have regular software updates. LG is dying as a mobile phone brand so software updates for the V50 will be a lot worse. The V50 has dual sim with dedicated micro sd card support, a headphone jack, FM radio and a 4000mAh battery so it's basically an acceptable enough successor to the V20 but still, it's got no IR blaster. Hopefully future versions (V60 or V70) will have it or it's Huawei's future Mate and P flagships for me as they always had IR blasters, headphone jacks, FM radios, excellent cameras and huge 4000mAh+ batteries. And much better software updates too! (Not like LG's horrendous software update support). For the record, my other V20, the -ESA-xx variant, is still on Nougat 7.0, the software it launched with in 2016. And it's not alone. Many other V20 regional variants were also NEVER upgraded to Oreo. So be warned if you ever buy an LG phone especially one as expensive as the V50 Thinq 5G. Better yet, get the regular Mate 20 for less and more software update reliability (plus an IR blaster too!)

Anonymous

It's good you're starting to accept reality.

Rimac

I have serious doubts about the Pie update to the V20. I think that if their launch was at 2.016, September, mean be more 'updatable' than others aged same.

Anonymous

Here's how an untampered BCK-5200 battery charging kit looks like. Note the translucent plastic and the paper seal used to pack the battery and the plastic battery case: Right now, even battery charging kits have tampered/fake batteries that are not in their official plastic packaging and paper seal.

Anonymous

No. I actually based my pricing on my purchase of the official external battery charging accessory [BCK 5200] which used to be available on ebay a year ago for $25, and comes with the official slow external charger and a sealed, genuine LG V20 OEM battery in the pack. I bought 3 of those for the battery mainly, and so I got 3 additional OEM batteries for my V20 (and 3 external chargers). I bought the Powerbear 6500mAh for the V20 for $80 in a local seller (not Amazon.com). That makes it more than twice the price I paid for my OEM V20 batteries. The OEM batteries have a different manufacturer: 'Donghwa Tocad Electronics' while the fake ones are manufactured by 'Yantai Bonsung Electronics'. Bought one of those fake ones for $7 each so I know how they differ from the genuine ones in terms of manufacturer's name, and most especially in terms of performance. The fake ones shut down the phone during peak or high processor loads even with 20-25% battery remaining and last only half as long from a full charge (battery percentage drops twice as fast). They look like real genuine, OEM batteries but don't perform as well. I don't know why others say they perdorm as well as OEM's but from my experience, they really don't and aren't worth it. Maybe others haven't tested these fake batteries under load (online gaming on LTE data which will cause unexpected shutdowns even at 20-25% battery remaining).

Anonymous

You mean it costs twice more than a fake oem battery. You think LG is still making fresh batteries for the V20? Not a chance. I'd reckon a large % out there for sale now are in fact fake. Reviews of disappointing performance/not holding a charge would suggest so, too. When LG stocked batteries on their website (guaranteed legit) they were $39.

Anonymous

I actually returned one PowerBear extended battery for 'invalid battery' defect. It actually costs more than twice the OEM battery and has excellent return and refund policy. The build quality is actually the best among extended batteries (better than Zerolemon). Just because I purchased a defective product doesn't mean I have poor taste. In fact, I don't recommend purchase if there is no good return policy. Amazon has excellent return policy. Your LOGIC is like that reviewers and websites that positively reviewed the FEW SAMSUNG Note 7 units that didn't have EXPLODING battery problem and all the users that chose to buy the exploding Note7 ALL HAD POOR TASTE. The PowerBear is far from an exploding battery but yes, it does have quality issues so buy only if you have an excellent return policy. Otherwise, buy another extended battery brand (hyperion, perfine, etc.) I bought it over the others because it was the only one that had 2 year warranty and excellent return policy in my area. I would be at greater loss if I bought an extended battery I can't return and that doesn't have warranty.

Anonymous

This is why I never use third-party batteries, period. It's just not that 25% of reviews are 1-star, if you tally it up 40% of reviews are 3 stars or less, and only 46% gave it 5 full stars. That's a terrible track record. I'm starting to get the vibe you have poor taste for well designed products, or a good taste for poorly designed products! You even support this powerbear garbage.

Anonymous

Yes. Lots of bad units (25% of reviews are 1 star). But if you get a good one that doesn't give you an 'invalid battery' error, you'll be rewarded. As an alternative, buy an extended battery case only (with no extended battery) like the Hyperion case, and place your spare OEM battery there so it will always be with you and you don't need to remember bringing it with the V20 always for marathon sessions.

V20 User

Keeping in view its customer demand and likes, LG should consider to launch V20 (Pro) edition, with improved battery, front camera, AMOLED display and android Pie out of the box. Hope so this will erase all previous complains regarding V20 users.

Juste

Is this the one you mentioned ? If so, how do you find it ? Both the battery and the protective case. Reviews on amazon.com are not brilliant... Thanks,

Anonymous

You obviously did not get my point. Beauty without substance is ugly. I have seen far too many beautiful curved edge screen phones that shatter at the slightest drop, and the repair costs are absolutely outrageous. Beauty and substance are not mutually exclusive. You can have beauty and substance at the same time. But as I see it, many ultra fragile curved edge screened phones are more beauty than substance.

Rimac

It's possible repeat the same style, even improved ? With complete update at the correct time ? Obviously, yes. And for many manufacturers. But damn if this is business ! !

MLAVRA

For all of you who don't own V20, have no intention of buying one and possess all knowledge and evidences about V20 not being a good phone, this is not a forum for you. V20 is a very special and unique piece of technology. LG, itself was throughout one period a most innovative and bravest mobile phone producer (with bad customer support and a very problematic quality control). This era started with G2 and ended with the crown jewel V20. If one doesn't own one he will not understand. Would I buy one in 2019? I don't know, probably depending on price. But I am very happy to already have it, because whatever I can imagine I might need from a mobile phone - it is already there.

Anonymous

This is awesome life advice: don't every have anything nice because one day you might break it.

Anonymous

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Wait until you drop those ultra fragile curved screen phones and you realize just how truly ugly the phone looks with broken curved screen. Not to mention the unwanted touch issues and horrid reflection you see at the edges that make reading absolutely horrendous.

Rimac

Also degrade the V20 with the bootloop issue was not possible. Everything is not possible.

Anonymous

Forgot to mention its got a BASIC fingerprint scanner too, and 4GB of RAM, 64GB internal storage option vs the G4's 3GB RAM, 32GB internal storage only (Google apps eat up internal storage because they can't be moved to micro sd storage) and the G4 also sorely lacks a basic fingerprint scanner. These improvements are definitely not 'minor' no matter how much you try to ignore them.

Anonymous

No. It is not a minor improvement unless you call a faster, more power efficient 14nm processor, a bigger screen, a bigger internal storage, a bigger battery, dual cameras, drop resistance, USB C and complete absence of widespread bootloop issues like your G4 is considered 'minor'. Again, let me reiterate: It's the last of its breed and the best of the highly versatile and feature packed removable battery phones from LG. If I were you, I'd have your bootlooping G4 fixed, buy a PowerBear 6500mAh removable extended battery, buy a 400GB micro sd card and buy micro USB slimport and enjoy your G4 long after your latest phone is dead.

Anonymous

It's good to hope but I don't believe in LG's promises anymore. One of my V20 is still on Nougat. Only my second V20 got updated to Oreo.

NavyBoats843

you are giving out wrong information..LG released a statement about 3-4 weeks ago that the V20 will get Pie in Q3..will it actually come to fruition is tbd

Canopus

Good camera, good main screen, good sound. The rest is awfully ugly.

Anonymous

Awesome so we're in agreement that the V20 is a small upgrade from a G4, it's got a great camera, and you probably shouldn't buy one in 2019 because it's about to be no longer supported by LG and will no longer get updates. Yeah? Great. :-P btw I believe the slimport standard is dead and/or is dying that's why you don't see any newer devices supporting it.

Anonymous

You're correct. The V20 is a significant improvement to the G4, V10 and all other previous LG phones before it. As I said, the V20 is the last of its breed. It's my first LG phone and will likely be my last as I don't find the V30 and V40 models worthy successors to my V20. Where to go from here after my V20's die? Likely the Huawei Mate 20 successor (regular model not the Pro) or the Pocophone F1 successor. I'm going to miss my 6500mAh PowerBear removable battery so badly, no doubt about it, but at least the huge 4000mAh battery of the Mate 20 or the Pocophone will make the transition less painful and limiting. Both have FM radio, both have storage expansion, both have dual SIM (although hybrid), both have LCD screen (my personal preference for long term retention of the maximum screen brightness, color balance and longevity), both have very good cameras with manual contols and both have headphone jacks. In addition, the Pocophone F1 has LTE only (not in the Mate 20) and the Mate 20 has an IR blaster (not in the Pocophone - Xiaomi, please bring it in Pocophone 2!). Both don't have slimport support but the Mate 20 does have MHL out (equivalent to slimport). As you can see, the Mate 20 is the closest match to the V20. I'm hoping it will have dedicated card slot soon and nano cards will become as cheap as micro sd and provide 400GB options (still way better investment than higher internal storage options).

Rimac

Perfect your idea of don't need to buy the V20 but better without biased comments.

Anonymous

You wrote "removable battery, FM radio, audio jack, dedicated micro sd card slot, slimport support, second screen, LTE only support, drop resistance..." lol my G4 has all of those features (+ dual sim, too) except second screen and drop resistance, and let's be honest, your phone can still break if you drop it. The second screen was a gimmick of all gimmicks, even LG didn't carry that feature it over to later v-series phones, or any of their phones for that matter. Honestly, the V20 is sounding more and more like a small upgrade over the G4. I still have my G4 sitting in a box somewhere and it's got MOST of the V20's killer features so I don't need to buy a V20 now, thanks. :-P

Anonymous

Lol, really very simple needs indeed that make me wonder why you buy a flagship phone anyway when there's an ocean of phones that provide above average screen, above average battery life and above average camera! And also makes me wonder why bother criticizing the V20 here when it's a phone that is beyond comparison to your phone in real all around usefulness, versatility and longevity? Why oh why? You still haven't answered this question. And to answer your question - YES! I'd still buy the V20 because the IR blaster is only part of the reasons I bought it! It has lots of many other features making it worth more to me and to the most exacting and demanding of users than your phone can even manage to offer, more so deliver! So there, you've got your answer - the V20 is not just a remote control, it is also an FM radio, a media playback powerhouse, a superb audio, photo, and video powerhouse, a marathon battery performer, etc. You'll have to remove more than the IR blaster for it to become an 'ordinary' phone like what you have. You'll have to take away the removable battery, FM radio, audio jack, dedicated micro sd card slot, slimport support, second screen, LTE only support, hidden SSID, drop resistance, etc. as well for me to dump it and consider it an 'ordinary' smartphone like yours. In short, the V20 is not your ordinary RUN-OF-THE-MILL smartphone. It is the phone of choice for the most exacting and demanding of users and you seem to like to discount those features as 'gimmicks' after all these years? Why? You still didn't answer this question. I assume it is really to justify your wrong decision buying your featureless, generic flagship phone over the V20 when you had that chance to have a gem of a phone... and now you're regretting it, trying to put down a 2 year old phone even if it does nothing to your phone's sales figures.

Anonymous

lol so now I don't deserve a flagship altogether because I don't need dual sim, IR blaster, FM radio, don't need to use headphones or need a removable battery? I only listen to the radio (or music for that matter) on my way to work. On my way to work, I use this thing called a "automobile" (or "car" for short) to get me to my place of work. It has a very nice Bose sound system in it and plays the radio or streams music from my phone over bluetooth just fine. Because of this, I have no need for headphones as well. I only use headphones when flying. But you're right, I might not be a "power user". I have my car, my desktop computer, my laptop, and my smart TV that I use to watch tv or listen to music or download/stream stuff on. But I do some video editing so one reason I always get flagships is cause it's only the flagships that offer 2160p video recording amongst other things (like flagships also have the best screens, very important to me). Said it before, need to say it again, my priorities are 1) screen 2) camera and 3) battery LIFE (not size) are important. If a phone can't do these 3 things above average then I'm not interested in all the other fluffy gimmick features it has. These 3 things are the deal-breakers for me just like dual sim, FM radio, and IR blaster are deal breakers for you. The V20 has an outstanding camera but come on can't we agree the screen and oem battery life aren't above average? I'm not even going to talk about all the other stuff it doesn't have, just the screen and battery life are sub-par which is why I didn't buy one (ok ok, and I don't like the appearance either but really it was the screen and bad battery life as if it had a good screen and good battery life I could settle for the appearance because the price was dropping so fast on them). Sounds like you guys have basically turned your V20's into glorified remote controls. lol. Can I ask if it didn't have a IR blaster would you have still bought one?

Anonymous

Wrong again. Geez you guys just want to believe whatever. Anyways proper phone repair shops (especially authorized ones) can replace the battery and reseal the phone to remain waterproof. It's not rocket science. Agian, look it up, ifixit has information on the procedure. Of course sketchy street vendors offering battery replacement service most likely will not reseal the phone correctly nor have the necessary equipment to do it.

Anonymous

Same with me. I can change cable channels or adjust tv volumes to what I want even if someone else has the remote. He who owns the remote gets to choose the channel and set the volume! Haha! I'm sometimes tempted to do it in airport lounge TV's and waiting room tv's. Its nice to play with in TV appliance stores too. People say it's amazing. Very few smartphone owners know you can control appliances with a phone.

Rimac

My infrared use is quite different. Living in a residence I have the AC and TV controls without depend of anyone. . . . Discretion. Hahaha.

Anonymous

Same with me. I don't listen to FM radio every single day but I do like to listen to it when I'm traveling and when I'm on the treadmill. As for the remote function, I really can't imagine alternating between multiple remotes that's always misplaced somewhere else or somewhere far. When I sit down to watch tv, I need to look for the tv remote, the cable box remote, and the air conditioning remote with me. When I'm using my blu ray player (different brand from tv) and home theater system instead of cable, then that's an additional 2 remotes to look for. And they always get placed somewhere out of reach (or out of sight) or need battery replacement or in the case of my tv remote, damaged beyond repair. Good thing I have my LG V20 with me always within an arm's length. I use it to control everything. I have actually created a master remote in Anymote app (my remote app of choice) where the essential buttons/controls for my tv, cable box, bluray player and home theater receiver are all combined in one very simple remote interface. No bulky third party master remotes have the same flexibility, ease of use, and functional capability.

Rimac

Your arguments can be valid for many people but not for everyone. For example the IR blaster is essential in my circumstances. I prefer have FM radio and remember that a removed sealed battery annul the Holy waterproofing.

Anonymous

Finally you admitted it. You just want an internet connected phone with a camera and video recorder. For your simple needs, really--- there's an ocean of choices. In fact, you are wasting money on your flagship phone when based on your needs you can just buy a 4G Nokia feature phone . Unless of course if you want a big screen and some bragging rights for the sexiest, most expensive phone. So why do you spend time dismissing the V20's features as 'nothing special' here? To stop people from buying the wrong phone that's no longer available and more than 2 years old? Or is it to justify a purchase you made in the past? The regrets you had when you chose some other disposable phone over the V20 with your chosen phone now likely dead or dying? I suppose it's the second one because really, you shouldn't care at all about a phone you consider 'not worth buying' anymore in 2019 as to spend so much time here. As for me, I've been loving my V20's with 6500mAh batteries. Binge watching Netflix everywhere. Good luck on those powerbank cases that waste so much time and power charging a dying sealed battery that no longer holds a charge, or not being able to use dual SIM because its being used by the micro sd card full of high quality music, personal videos and offline movie downloads you intend to watch alone while traveling or at a friend's place or elsewhere while visiting.

Anonymous

You need to get your facts straight. The G4 was available in a dual sim + microSD card slot version, look it up (I owned one) AND it records 2160p video just like the V20, too. My G4 also had a IR blaster and FM radio that I never used, as well. Oh, and it had a removable battery that I never had to replace in the 2 years that I used it, either. Oh, and the battery is still good, too. fyi you're aware a single sim version of the V20 exists, right? So is that model still the best phone in the world too or only the dual sim version? Here in north america it is very uncommon for anyone to require a dual sim phone, we just don't need 2 active numbers since all of our plans can call country wide with no additional charges. Facts are less than 2% of phones used in the US are dual sim (and just above 3% in Canada). It's just not required here. The extended battery cases for sealed battery phones and the v20's solution are executed differently but they are solving the exact same problem, and that's that the oem battery life is unacceptable. You are using a 6400mah battery in your v20, therefore you are admitting the original battery life is unacceptable otherwise you wouldn't be using it, no? Also, the battery in sealed battery phones is in fact replaceable, it's just not user replaceable but can be replaced at a shop for a reasonable cost (our definitions of "reasonable" are probably different), so it's not the end of the world if the battery in a sealed-battery phone somehow does manage to deteriorate that much to the point it needs replacing. I would never ever recommend anyone buy a V20 in 2019. It's at it's end of it's support cycle and will no longer get updates from LG (or very soon will no longer get updates). Buy something newer that is still supported by the manufacturer. It's a no-brainer. So let's clarify. I don't need dual sim, I don't need FM radio, I don't need an IR blaster, I don't use headphones so don't need a DAC, and I really don't care if a battery is removable or sealed. Should I still buy a V20? Of course not.

Rimac

Done : since early May 2.017 and I still wait for image retention, functioning the screen practically throughout the day.

Anonymous

1. BLATANT LIE. The V20 has removable battery. To say it's THE SAME as a powerbank battery case attached to, and used to charge the sealed battery is a BLATANT LIE. There's a HUGE difference between a glorified powerbank and a removable battery. The first is an accessory. The second is an essential, HIGHLY CUSTOMIZABLE PART of a phone. And it is SPECIAL unless you like to change phones with poor battery life regularly or be tethered to a wall socket or a powerbank case all the time. 2. HALF TRUTH. Not all flagship phones have micro sd card slots and headphone jacks at the same time. And even then, majority have those STUPID hybrid slots like the flagship phone you have now that makes you choose between dual SIM and storage expansion. It's only good for you and for other strictly single SIM only users. 3. BLATANT LIE. The LG G4 may have some of the V20's features but it does not have them all in one phone. It only has 32GB internal storage, has NO dual SIM, NO 4K video, NO dual cameras, NO second screen, NOT EVEN a BASIC fingerprint scanner, and many other V20 improvements and additional features. Just because you don't use those features I mentioned doesn't mean those are gimmicks. Just because you like to watch Netflix on your Smart TV ONLY and ONLY at your home and NOWHERE ELSE, doesn't mean other people don't watch Netflix in any other TV or place or hotel room or wherever they want, anywhere and everywhere they go or travel to. There, I have clarified those 3 points you mentioned. Enjoy your phone and be happy you have simple needs. As I mentioned before, if you really don't find an old 2016 model phone (the V20) desirable, then why are you here? You said so yourself a 2016 phone can NEVER be desirable. Don't tell me you are still convincing buyers here not to buy the V20 when it is no longer available brand new and when most of those sold online are mostly refurbished ones with possible defects. If you persist here, it only reinforces my suspicion you really are envious with a 2 year old phone! You shouldn't be if your needs are as simple as you say. Unless of course, if you regretted buying one while it was still available brand new and at a very low price while you had the chance. As for me, never regretted buying two V20's despite the horrible discriminatory software update support of LG. Couldn't be happier with the V20 customized with a PowerBear 6500mAh removable battery. Compact and light enough for daily use, but lasts more than a day even with heavy LTE data use. Would definitely recommend one for all V20 owners as standard battery pack. You won't regret the purchase.

Anonymous

but those aren't facts: 1. the V20 does not come with a 6400mah battery, that is part of a third party battery + new thicker rear plate to accommodate the said larger battery. Similar cases with extended batteries are available for phones with sealed batteries, too. Nothing special. 2. The OP makes it sound like all other phones don't have headphone jacks or microSD card slots. My phone does have a headphone jack, and a microSD card slot, too. 3. My LG G4 had almost all of those features and guess what? I never used them! = gimmicks. If you use them, great, if not, it's just fluff. Seriously if you have a 4k TV why are you streaming Netflix from your phone to your TV, just use the Netflix app on the tv! And use the remote control, too, why you over complicate your life? Streaming Netflix from your phone to a 4K TV AND using the IR blaster app to control it, too, haha really? I just use the Netflix built in to the TV and use the tv remote control, it's great. You should try it. I care about battery life (without altering the phone's physical dimensions), camera, and screen. V20 ticks the camera box, does not tick battery life and screen box (my older G4 has a brighter screen, fact). I don't care how many other features a phone has if it can't do those 3 well. Never had a problem with amoled screens, OP makes it sound like everyone with a amoled screen will experience burn-in, not true. Fact: Most flagships have a amoled screen. The only time I've ever had a problem with my screen in any product has been my G4 with it's image retention. Fact: the V20 is also known to suffer from the same image retention problem. Fact: I can't even remember the last time I saw someone with a V20.

Rimac

It is a matter more than passion, facts and facts are stubborn.

Anonymous

You don't because you have very limited use case scenario of your phone. You probably never travel much or use mobile data heavily or play online games or watch YouTube heavily that's why dual SIM and battery life doesn't matter to you as you are never too far away for long from a wall charger or a wireless charger and you are perfectly happy being tethered to a wall or a bulky powerbank. Besides, you probably don't care your sealed phone battery getting accelerated battery wear and death due to inefficient and more heat generating wireless charging as you probably like to buy new phones every year anyway. You probably are not into high quality music and movies (Netflix/Amazon Prime subscription/Google Play Movies purchases and rentals) and into travels that is why up to 400GB (max 2TB) DEDICATED micro sd storage, 4K UHD out (slimport) support, headphone jack and FM radio support doesn't matter to you. You probably haven't experienced your household losing remotes, having remotes getting misplaced/damaged, needing battery replacement or your car stereo remote or other remotes mafunction or having to always get up to turn on/off the aircon remote that's misplaced far away when your smartphone with remote is always an arm's length away from you. You probably don't care your phone shifting to WCDMA /HSPA/3G instead of being on LTE all the time where its available because you are probably always in an area of excellent LTE signal strength or that 3G speeds are perfectly OK with you or are fast enough in your area. I could go on and on but as I said, if you only use your phone for call and text and a little Facebook, a little YouTube, browsing, and gaming, then certainly the V20 will never be desirable to you and there is an ocean of alternative phone choices for you. But for the most demanding and exacting of users who want their phones to do lots of things and be everything to them, the V20 is a rare breed indeed; the last of its kind.

Anonymous

Hmmm, still don't see your point. But you've got passion, I'll give you that.

Anonymous

Yes LG mobile sucks with regard to updates. If the V20 were some other flagship phone without updates and with the same set of generic features as the modern flagships of today, (sealed batteries, no micro sd card slots, no IR blaster, no FM radio and no headphone jack, etc), then I would have disposed my V20s a long time ago. There's no point sticking with them as there are lots of newer phones that cost less and have superb update support. But as it is, the V20 is truly the last of its kind. The most feature packed/versatile phone that ever existed that is designed to last for several years like a PC. Not like the sea of disposable flagship phones we have right now - severe screen fractures from a slight drop due to weakened curved screen glass structures that no case can adequately protect, sealed batteries that die and become obsolete and have no available replacement in just a few years, internal storage without micro sd expansion that gets filled up and demands purchasing a more expensive, high internal storage phone just because there is no external storage available which would have cost LESS THAN $80 for 400GB storage.

Anonymous

Really, I don't want to repeat again why the V20 is very desirable to have in 2019 even with poor software update support. Your mere presence here is evidence you secretly envy and desire the V20's features which are no longer available in modern flagship phones. Do you have a 6400mAh removable battery in your phone that makes it last for days with mobile LTE data permanently on? Gaming, browsing online all you want? My V20 has! Does your phone have dual sim and a dedicated micro sd card slot, which, the 400GB card now sells for just below $80 so you can have dual SIM and still binge watch on offline downloaded Netflix movies all you want without needing to buy a 512GB $1,000 hybrid dual sim phone? The V20 has! Does your phone's amoled screen still have pristine condition without permanent screen burn in and still the same brightness, the same perfect white/perfect color balance despite more than 2 years of use? My V20 has! Does your phone support 4K UHD out via wired slimport so you can view your 4K recorded movies/4K downloads in your large tv without playback quality deterioration and stuttering that happens with wireless screen share? The V20 has! Does your phone have excellent quad DAC audio and 4K video playback and recording capabilities including access to a plethora of manual controls for the best music listening/recording and the best photo and video capture/recording and playback? The V20 has! Does your phone have FM radio and an audio jack to listen to flac/mp3 music and FM radio on long rides without wasting data and without worrying about the battery? The V20 has! Does your phone have an LTE only option so that it always remains on the fast 4G/LTE advanced lane even with a very weak LTE signal? The V20 has! Does your phone have a second screen that is ALWAYS ON to show you the date, the battery remaining, shortcuts, or whatever text you wish displayed when the main screen is off? The V20 has. Can your smartphone provide a Wi-Fi hotspot without showing your phone's hotspot SSID? The V20 can. Does your phone have military grade certified drop resistance? The V20 has! Can your phone control all appliances BAR NONE - all brands of TVs, amplifiers/receivers, car stereos, air conditioning units, dvd/cd/bd players, karaoke players, cable boxes/satellite tv boxes, etc. (put IR based appliance here)? The V20 can! The V20 doesn't need to have folding screens, under display fingerprint scanner, face ID, wireless charging and android pie to do all those. I told you its going to last a long, long time and I can assure you it will last longer than the modern 2019 flagships - folding phones, phones with amoled screens and sealed batteries, phones with waterproofing but no drop protection (those ULTRA fragile curved screens) , no micro sd expansion, etc. because those phones lack features that are essential for all around long term versatility, durability and usefulness!

Anonymous

Brunei also no oreo update- mine stuck at June 2017

Anonymous

I have to say this phones sucks! Its 2019 and my LG V20 still don't have the oreo update. The last update was in June 2017 (it says) then none. Can't update anymore- error it says. Its a waste of money honestly. I don't recommend this phone.

Rimac

Desirable or not according personal preferences in a wide range of versatility using the V20.

Anonymous

Lol "very desirable in 2019", seriously? No offense but no phone from 2016 is still very desirable today. Get over it.

Anonymous

I don't think there's anybody in these LG forums who owns AN LG phone is ever satisfied with the way LG handles updates especially with LG's REGIONAL DISCRIMINATION where one regional variant gets updated to Oreo and another identical model from another region does not get updated. But make no mistake, the V20 is still a VERY DESIRABLE and VERY CAPABLE phone to buy in 2019 despite lack of updates (in some regional models). I intend to use my V20's up until the day they die which could quite go well beyond 2020. Other flagship phone buyers are just beginning to enjoy the freedom a huge 4000mAh capacity battery gives them while we V20 owners have enjoyed 6500mAh extended batteries for years! Would recommend the 6500mAh extended batteries over 10,000mAh ones because they're quite compact, light and pocketable enough for daily use but yet, provide longer battery life than even the most expensive modern flagships having only 4000mAh++ batteries. And it's not just the batteries where the V20 shines. The dual sim and dedicated micro sd card slot too is worth mentioning. Who would have thought 400GB micro sd cards would now cost LESS THAN $80 at Amazon.com? And that you don't have to sacrifice dual SIM functionality or waste money buying a new ultra expensive hybrid dual SIM flagship phone with 512GB storage just because you always use dual SIM and at the same time want all your offline Netflix movie downloads and personal 4K captured videos always available online or offline. That's the V20. I never regretted my V20 purchases. But just because I love the V20 doesn't mean I do the same for LG mobile with its horrible and horrendous discriminatory software update support.

Anonymous

Another satisfied LG mobile customer lol

Anonymous

There's no Pie for the V20. LG did not even update many other LG V20 H990DS regional variants to Oreo. -ESA-xx in particular was never updated to Oreo. LG mobile is bankrupt. It has pulled out from many countries. Don't expect Pie as LG can't even provide Oreo to many LG V20 H990DS variants which it ABANDONED with Nougat 7.0, the original software it launched with in 2016. LG mobile division is on the path of TOTAL EXTINCTION and COMPLETE IRRELEVANCE with this kind of HORRIBLE and MOST HORRENDOUS software update support in the entire mobile industry bar NONE.

Anonymous

There's no Pie for the V20. LG did not even update many other LG V20 H990DS regional variants. -ESA-xx in particular was never updated to Oreo. LG mobile is bankrupt. It has pulled out from many countries. Don't expect Pie as LG can't even provide Nougat to many LG V20 H990DS variants which it ABANDONED with Nougat 7.0, the original software it launched with in 2016. LG mobile division is on the path of TOTAL EXTINCTION and COMPLETE IRRELEVANCE with this kind of HORRIBLE and MOST HORRENDOUS software update support in the entire mobile industry bar NONE.

Anonymous

When is pie coming?

Anonymous

My LG V20 is still not upgraded to Oreo. Its from PHL with ESA software. LG might have mislook this version, only PHL and Vietnam LG V20 have no OREO up to now.

Anonymous

No. Directional tuning is the same in Nougat and Oreo. You can manually adjust directivity and employ wind noise filter both in Nougat and after update to Oreo. It's only the maximum 4K video bit rate that's changed. HD audio recorder settings and features also practically the same in Nougat and Oreo. You can manually set sampling rate as high as 192khz both in Nougat and after update to Oreo.

Anonymous

It's the same. It's 64Mbps in highest quality 4K setting in Nougat (manual mode or auto mode) but only 52Mbps maximum bitrate (highest quality setting) once updated to Oreo (manual mode or auto mode). No way to get back to 64 Mbps once you update to Oreo. You save on storage space though but frankly, the bitrate downgrade is a bummer. Micro sd card storage is already very cheap - $80 for Sandisk 400gb at Amazon.com so the 20% maximum bit rate reduction is just stupid. It takes a toll on 4K video quality because the reduction is not due to use of the more storage efficient HEVC/H.265 video format.

V20V30user

I owned a Korean V20 (F800L) model. Guess I'm going to stay in 7.0 if this happens in all variant. I have a V30 (H9330DS) and yes, in video mode if you want a better audio, shoot with the V30. Otherwise, use the V20. Did they remove the ability to tune directional too in Oreo?

V20V30user

Thanks for the feedback bro. What about video bitrate in manual mode?

Anonymous

*I meant V20's updated to Oreo (not V29).

Anonymous

No more 64Mbps 4K video in Oreo. After my V20's Oreo update (H990DS, - AME-XX variant), maximum 4K video bit rate went down from 64Mbps to 52mbps. My other V20 still has 7.0 Nougat (H990DS - ESA-xx variant). It and many other H990DS variants were ABANDONED by LG and left with Nougat 7.0 - the exact SAME android version the phones launched with, MORE THAN 2 years ago. LG SUCKS BIG TIME! On the good side of things, having no Oreo update means I get to retain the highest quality 4K video setting: 64Mbps which looks better than the 52Mbps in V29's updated to Oreo.

Hans

I dont feel any battery improvement, but they fix the camera, its now faster.

V20V30user

Hey guy! Anyone updated their unit to Oreo? Did battery life improved? What about camera and video recording? Does it still support 64mbps in high bitrate or its now 52mbps like the V30?

Neri

Does it support AR and VR apps? For example: Mondly?

Anonymous

Yes. The V20 can do both wireless screenshare (wifi direct) and wired slimport connection. I use those features almost everyday for presentations and for viewing offline downloaded movies on my big screen TV. My 200GB micro sd card slot is almost filled up with Netflix and Google Play Movies offline HD downloads. While wireless screen share is works well with the LG V20 and any smart TV or an older TV with a screen share adaptor, I prefer wired slimport connection as it produces the best movie quality in terms of sharpness, detail, fluidity and resolution. I might upgrade to a 400GB micro sd card soon to fit all my media and other digital files in my V20. The best thing about the V20 is that it has dual sim + dedicated micro SD card slot so you don't have to sacrifice the second SIM slot for a micro SD card slot if you are fond of movie watching.

Excel

Have anyone used it to connect to any tv?

Anonymous

Thanks a lot for your help.

Anonymous

Remove the battery and restart the phone. If it keeps on freezing still, replace your micro sd card with a brand new, genuine class 10 micro sdxc card. Also check phone's internal storage. Transfer files if it is nearly full until internal storage is no more than 60% full. If the phone still freezes, do factory reset and install all software updates before adding apps from playstore. Allow all software and app updates to be completed. If still freezing after factory reset and after doing everything else above, send your phone to an LG service center.

Anonymous

Recently, I am facing a homescreen freeze, any help?

MLAVRA

All based on my experience and subjective opinion. Perhaps I was lucky with those fakes. Of course, everybody should solemnly decide how to spend their own money!

Anonymous

You also said you think those $12 fakes might be OEM that didn't pass QC. They're fake garbage but if you think they're a good value then maybe that's why there are so many fakes out there.

MLAVRA

If you read it carefully you will see that I wrote exactly that. NON OEM are 12$ but my point us that this is a good investment. 😀

Anonymous

Sorry there's no way you're getting an LG oem battery for $12. If it's $12 it's 99.9% fake. Look on the LG website the MSRP is/was $40 when they were making them. You get what you pay for.

MLAVRA

Related to the batteries: my experience is different. I have been using 2 OEM and 2 "fake" batteries for more than a year now and I haven't noticed any significant difference. Those non-OEMs now, after some time, turn-off the phone at 4-5 % and they don't show the temperature value to the programs which measure the temperature. The rest is the same. I tend to believe that those "fakes" might be originals which did not pass the QC for some reason. It is a lottery, but having in mind that they cost around 12$ a piece, I still believe that V20 owners should go for them if they can not find the OEM batteries.

Anonymous

It is worth noting here that the LG generally releases new software updates for its South Korean models a month or two before their arrival in international markets. Therefore, it is safe to expect that the update will reach your LG phone in the coming weeks.

Fiffi

Thats for korean model. Not so sure about other though

Anonymous

LG just promised the Pie update in Q3 2019 for the V20 per update page with the G7 Pie roll out.

Anonymous

I have six LG V20 OEM batteries for my two V20's. They were bought when original V20 OEM batteries and the LG BCK 5200 external battery charging kit accessory (includes the external charger and OEM battery) were still very widely available. Now its very hard to find either. Many are lookalike fakes and the external charging kit is sometimes tampered with so it doesn't include the OEM battery or includes a fake/counterfeit/alternate battery. However, you can still find lots of cheap off brand batteries that are the same 3200mAh capacity as the OEM LG V20 batteries or extended batteries (6400mAh or 10,000mAh). Don't buy fake LG V20 batteries that look like original OEM batteries - they last only half as long and shut down at even 20% battery remaining. Better buy off brand batteries like 3200mAh Perfine or Homsum, or 6400mAh like Hyperion or Powerbear or Zerolemon 10,000mAh. Amazon.com carry those brands.

Anonymous

good news fellas , V20 will get Pie, the source is:

Rimac

Since I can't help you with a suitable information, I encourage you to find the OEM batteries before the possibility of cease the production. Personally I use pleased extended batteries.

Anonymous

I definitely will, if I'm able to find an OEM battery for, it will even last longer.Checked lg's site for OEM battery they do not seem to have one, if anyone knows a link for OEM battery will be glad to know

Anonymous

Haha ok just checking in.

Rimac

I share of your opinion and my two V20's were the most successful purchase decision I have had in mobile phones.

Anonymous

Yes. I'll use my two V20's beyond that as long as they're functional. Not upgrading anytime soon to those crippled android flagships with no micro sd card slots, no headphone jacks, no IR blaster, no FM radio and no huge 4000mAh and higher batteries (if sealed).

Anonymous

So are there still any proud V20 owners here who still think they'll be using theirs till the end of 2021? (5 years). lol just 3 years to go!

g6 user

not with tv but with phone lg g5

Anonymous

Still no OREO for -ESA-xx regional variant. The only thing worse than not getting LG's promised two major android software updates for the V20 (Oreo and Pie), is not getting EVEN A SINGLE android software update at all!

njrodriguez8885

do you have burn screen issues?

Rimac

Clever idea adding the Note 9 power to the V20 versatility. (specialy getting the Note 9 cheaper).

Medstar1

After LG removed all of the unique features of the V20 to be more Samsung like, I decided to cut out the middle man and purchased a Samsung Galaxy Note 9 for half off. My V20 and Note 9 swap out daily driver duties, as my LG still runs nice and strong.

g6 user

well it depends case I have 2 tvs at home .... lb650t 42 inches and lh600t well lb650t has issues with leds it suffers with that it start with 1 bright and then almost all of them this is second time that the leds issue has been fixed on my tv and it cost about 120 us to get them repair in my country ..... before that the first 1 I had to change was the front because the steel is not stainless and it was getting horrible like when some one writes some thing on the still with a brown pen ..... and the lh600t 43 inches has issues not front but back case ... it is suppose to be steel or metal I guess it is painted surely cause it started to pill off when I try to clean it no water being used or anything ...I know people don't look at back of devices but on screen but still bad quality on their products and as well the the bonus is controller it was suppose to be compatible magic remote but no same model that is in india but they have the support I wonder lg whats is in mind

Rimac

Home appliances are another LG division and not compulsorily meaning chaotic customers service. A sister of mine enjoys LG appliances without problems. I'm sure that your TV list mean a solid alternative to LG.

Anonymous

I was actually contemplating on purchasing a 79" UHD 4K LG tv but my bad experience with my LG V20 smartphone has taught me LG as a brand cannot be trusted. The bad image retention (if I don't use Blue light filter app) on my B&O V20 and the complete absence of Oreo software update in that unit while my other V20 has updated to Oreo, only points to LG's lack of quality consistency, inadequate customer focus and concern. My LG washing machine is the only other LG appliance/electronics in the house. Will most likely opt for a big screen Sharp, Panasonic, Samsung, or Sony TV instead.

g6 user

lg promises are worthless im mad with lg I though my previous lg g4 didn't get nougat because all issues with bootloop I tried to understand and accept it .. but now with a g5 being updated in another regions mine rs988 unlocked no carrier attached or bloated in usa and still no oreo what a shame ... im so mad I cant believe that this unlocked phone still no have 8.0 because they were not able to provide 8.1 neither ...... worst even some lg v20 didn't get 8.0 .... and it was first with nougat and entitled for 9.0 on 2 years track this is horrible... I wont get another lg device again at least im happy I didn't pay the full retail price for it.

Anonymous

Headline: LG G5 and LG V20 no longer listed on LG’s security update page Content: It appears LG is ditching the LG V20 and LG G5... This means the devices will no longer receive updates, security patches or otherwise. Both devices will not be updated past Android Oreo... However, LG did promise 2 years of updates, which means at least the V20 should technically have gotten Android Pie... -XDA Developers

Anonymous

-HKG-xx and -TWN-xx both already have Oreo. Good for you. As for me, still don't have Oreo for my -ESA-xx but already have Oreo for my - AME-xx.

Rimac

Thank you. Really easy to find it. Android version : 8.0.0 " " : 8.0.0 Software version : V20 d - HKG - XX " " : V20 a - TWN - XX I wish to you enjoy your 'team', especially the not provided with B&O.

Anonymous

You need to go to 'Software info' to know your V20 regional variant. It is the last entry at the bottom in the 'software info'. Check out this YouTube video to know where to find for your V20's regional variant:

Rimac

Tell me stupid but I'm not able to get the information required both under the cover and in settings.

Anonymous

Maybe there are only very few B&O LG V20 units with -ESA-xx region that is why LG is not updating this variant. What regional variant are your B&O V20's which got Oreo?

Rimac

I'm agree with the whole terms of your post and seems to me an uncommon case that Oreo came only to the not provided B&O model since both B&O of my own has Oreo.

Anonymous

It's nice to dream but it's wishful thinking. The LG V20 was a 'mistake' by LG. LG released a phone with too many desirable features that many V20 owners never felt the urge to upgrade to the newer LG phone models. Worse, LG removed many of those unique features in its newer phones [IR blaster, dedicated micro SD card slot (it's now hybrid slot), removable batteries, slimport support, etc.] that the V20 owners who valued them didn't consider the newer flagship LG phones a 'REAL' upgrade or a 'TRUE' successor of the V20. At most, the newer models were half-baked compromises. LG's mobile division has been downhill since then. LG and Sony mobile phones were pulled out December last year in my region. It's not a good sign. I don't think LG will still be relevant a few years from now with the horrible software update support and sloppy quality control as its track record - the V20 being the most glaring example. Being pulled out of distribution last year in my region together with Sony mobile phones (which have less than 1% worldwide market share) is telling. The future for LG mobile phones is bleak. Expect even worse software updates for all LG mobile phones this year - even for flagship phones. Better yet, avoid any LG phone in 2019 if you are at all concerned with software updates. It will save you a lot of disappointment.

Anonymous

Screen ghosting is NOT a feature. It's a horrible testament to LG's sloppy quality control. I have two H990 DS V20's. The B&O version (-ESA-xx region) has screen ghosting and still does not have Oreo and I doubt if it will ever have Oreo after MORE THAN 2 YEARS on its original Nougat 7.0 android software. My other V20, the non-B&O version (-AME-xx region) never had screen ghosting: perfect in every way and it has been updated to Oreo but will likely never have PIE. Despite the bad experience from my B&O V20, I'm keeping it because the Blue Light filter app rectifies the screen ghosting problem for long as it is installed and running. As for the Oreo update, I believe it's a hopeless case for the -ESA-xx variant (and possibly other less widely distributed variants). PIE update? forget it. You buy this phone for its features and longevity - not for the fast software updates for which LG is VERY POOR. Just because owners of V20 here like their V20's despite their V20's faults doesn't mean they're FANBOYS. FANBOYS don't acknowledge defects or make defects 'features', get it? V20 owners are NOT blind to the V20's defects (ghosting, no updates, etc.). V20 owners would rather dwell on positives and look for workaround for the few problems the V20 has (like Blue Light filter app for the ghosting, custom ROM for software updates), extended batteries or new OEM batteries for poor battery life (expected now as the V20 is more than 2 years old and so is the original battery that came with it.) V20 owners give credit where credit is due and while LG is the MOST HORRIBLE smartphone company in terms of SOFTWARE UPDATES and QUALITY CONSISTENCY, its unique features and capabilities make it still relevant EVEN in 2019. V20 owners have more than enough reason to stick with the V20 and not upgrade at all after more than 2 year! The anti-obsolescence features (removable batteries, dual SIM + dedicated micro sd card slot, long life QHD IPS display in 16:9 aspect ratio, IR blaster, FM Radio, headphone jack, slimport support, etc.) are actually part of the many reasons why more than 2 years later, the V20 is still very much ALIVE and is much more discussed in its forum here than the more recent models from other brands (or even from the same brand itself) in their respective forums. Make no mistake about it. The LG V20 is loaded with anti-obsolescence features that is bound to make it last for even more years to come and yes, quite possibly last longer than even the upcoming disposable 2019 flagship phones with small sealed batteries and no external storage options.

Anonymous

Careful a post like this is going to awaken the V20 fanboys. And remember the screen ghosting is actually a feature and is perfectly acceptable. J/k it sucks haha.

Asif_Shahzad

Keeping in view of LG V20 likes by all around the globe, I think LG should launch V20 (Pro) or V20+ version, with extended front camera, battery and Android Pie from the box (or at-least Oreo 8.1). This will attract more customers for V20 rather than old or new models of LG devices.

Jd

Yet another POS from LG. Screen burn badly. No update support. Poor battery life. There is a reason LG is far behind major players

artnis

root. phone and install lineage 15.1 or ressurection remix 6.2.1.check xda forums.

artnis

ghosting can be fixed by adjusting kcal, this would. have to be done via rooting and installing a kcal compatible rom. This phone is definitely worth being rooted and having a. rom. installed. currently has a very stable fully usable 8.1 android available and a android 9 is currently on a beta stage. rooted phone is so. quick. and smooth and with GCam installed the camera quality is even better so it extended the life of this phone as I don't have the need to buy a more recent phone at all.

Anonymous

Updates depend on the actual regional variant. - ESA-xx regional variant of the H990 DS V20 still don't have Oreo. Maybe you have this same regional variant? Go to - Settings - About Phone - Common - Software Info. Check the 'Software Version' to see which V20 regional variant you actually have. - AME-XX and other regional variants mentined already have Oreo OTA updates. No luck for - ESA-xx and other regional variants. LG is really horrible with software updates. The worst of all phone manufacturers.

Anonymous

You're welcome. The original OEM LG V20 battery is clearly shown at 2 min 45 seconds to 3 min 0 seconds in the Youtube unboxing video below: As can be seen, the OEM battery is sealed in translucent plastic with paper seal and is made by Donghwa Tocad Electronics. Lots of fake OEM LG V20 batteries sold online are labeled 'Yantai Bonsung Electronics' which look exactly like the original OEM LG V20 batteries made by 'Donghwa Tocad Electronics' but do not perform the same. As mentioned, these fake batteries last only half as long as original OEM ones and worse, the fake batteries shut down your phone even at 15-20% battery remaining especially when the processor and battery is loaded with heavy tasks - online gaming, camera/video recording, youtube streaming, browsing on mobile LTE, etc. Be warned. Don't waste your money on fakes. Better buy a reputable brand non-OEM third party regular or extended battery than those fake ones that look like original but are actually counterfeit.

girish

I have a h990a DS edition, I'm from Chennai, is there a link to download and install the OS, I've not received the update.

Beresci

Thank for this efficient tip

Anonymous

You can visit xda and ask the help of H910 owners there:

Anonymous

Do a factory reset and replace your V20 battery with a new one. Buy genuine OEM or third party extended battery. Neve buy fake LG batteries. They look like OEM but they last only half as long shut down the phone even at 15-20% battery charge remaining. The original OEM V20 batteries were made by Donghwa Tocad Electronics and come in translucent plastic with paper seal. See this YouTube unboxing so you'll know the packaging of original OEM LG V20 battery (Manufacturered by DonghwacTocad Electronics): As for ghosting, it has been mentioned several times. Just do a search here in the search box. Download and install Blue Light Filter app' by 'Leap Fitness Group' in Google Playstore, launch the app and use the following settings: Night Mode: toggle 'ON', Color temperature: 4500K (Tap 'sun and clouds' icon and tap 'OK' when prompted it is not good for sleeping), Intensity: 0-1% Screen dim: 3-5% Set auto timer: toggle 'OFF' Set Notification bar: toggle 'OFF' It will solve your screen retention issues with the V20.

Oiyie

V20a the version without B&O in India has not recieved the update.

Afroman159

hey guys atlast i just got an update msg 2 hours before new year. im in South Africa and the update is taking 1900mb

aeldor

Boys and girls, does anyone know a way to root H910? (after the November 2017 update) I have a h918 which is impossible to root (I also damaged its display) and I bought a h910 with the hope I could root it and install LineageOS. It turned out there was a patch of the at&t software which disabeld the method of rooting that I was using. If you could recommend me a method, I would be very grateful. If not, does anyone know of a version which can be rooted for sure? I think I am going to buy another V20 anyway, this phone is so cool, I want to keep it for many years.

Vasanth

I updated the OS it's not getting install, it's saying invalid source, so please let me know..how to install...any other process...

Anonymous

Check it manually it is available. The update is very stable and butter smooth phone feels completely new and super fast. Till now no problem regarding wifi only issue is screen ghosting which has gotten more worse.

girish

I'm from chennai I didn't receive the update bro, How is the update, Is jio working fine, did the Wifi signal issue is fixed bro?

Anonymous

Updated to oreo the screen ghosting has become more worse please give a solution and the battery life worse then ever

Marcial

Still no update for my LG V20. I'm from the Philippines.

g6 user

international and no carrier branded devices are suppose to be faster on OS update track but on lg policy is the opposite as I can see they only deliver os updates to carriers surely because they are pushed to do so..... but other units don't get anything ..... it is a shame that I have an lg g5 rs988 unlocked no carrier branded and still using 7.0 ........ don't get it when all us variants has the update already.

Anonymous

-ESA-xx variant of V20 (H990 DS) still has no Oreo update. With such horrible update support, LG will be irrelevant in 2019.

SPD

LG V20 upgraded to Oreo ! Was apprehensive about the update however find out to be stable -my phone is smooth as butter ... Though too late , happy to get Oreo !!!

Rimac

Congrats, mate. Last but not least.

Hem

Good News: Finally, LG V20 (DS) started receiving oreo 8.0 update in India on today 28/12/2018. Just now got a pop-up with 1.8gb update. Updating it now on my v20. Check it manually, if not....

AJAY

lg v20 india h990ds update .just got now size: 1888.90 mb

catlyn762

My only complaint about the V20 is the speaker, I did buy it refurbished.

Rimac

You can buy it and enjoy the most complete featured phone, without continuity about it. I enjoy since eighteen months ago the V20 without complaints and a second unit since fifteen months ago also without complaints. I recommend you strongly the V20, despite the 'newest'.

Anonymous

Regarding your alternatives, Redmi Note 5 Pro, Asus Max M2 pro, and Samsung j7 pro, the Asus would be the best among those 3. However, it still lacks the V20's IR blaster (if that is important to you). For a budget of around or below $300, I would recommend the Pocophone F1, Mi A2 lite or Mi Max 3, though again, they don't have the complete feature set of the V20.

Anonymous

I have two V20's and one of them (B&O model) has image rention/ghosting, while the other one (non-B&O model) never had ghosting issues. Both were bought brand new. The ghosting issue can be corrected using Blue Light filter app though. Oreo update: the non-B&O model (-AME-XX variant) already has Oreo while the B&O model (-ESA-xx variant) with image retention/ghosting, is still on Nougat (still no Oreo update). No guarantee it will be updated. If you buy your V20 brand new, you won't likely have any problems apart from these two. If you buy refurbished, you may have some of the other problems/issues mentioned in this forum.

ultramans

Hi guys. I'm intrested in this phone, and if I do end up buying it, it will be an import without warranty as my country no longer has stock at updated prices (240$ vs 135$ on ebay). I see a lot of people complaining about problems on this phone, such as broken DACs, Backlight bleed, battery drain, and other bugs/bad software support. Things seem a lot better with the new Oreo update now, but I'm not sure how many problems are actually software related or if there are any more; I didn't read much about it. Are there any of you using this phone that can list out all the problems in this phone, and if it's worth it over new phones of today? (I'm looking at Mi Note 5 Pro, Asus Max M2 pro, and Samsung j7 pro) The SD820's graphics seem really good, and all the other professional features such as IR blaster, removable battery, camera, audio, bar screen, and dedicated card slot make it really attractive over the consumer phones today. I hope that you gus can confirm that it's still a good and stable phone, and I hope to join the club!

Rimac

Although Oreo is the latest update to the V20, the voices who blamed exaggerantly to LG their neglect to update, should be relax a little.

smartfhr

Oreo for AME 1860.69 mb, for B&O IDN 1886.99 mb. Antutu for AME 156 and IDN 162, both cold and optimized. Maybe if they were rooted and with a lighter custom rom it could be squeezed over 200. If everything goes well, it would probably lose 2nd screen, just like the Note series when it loses its S pen functions. So the one who likes it could have a new phone every day, ie with different icons.

Anonymous

There's no update yet for the -ESA-XX variant of the dual sim (H990 DS) V20. If you have the -AME-XX variant, it should have already received OTA update to Oreo.

MLAVRA

Rimac, for my H990DS AME it was a bit more than 1800 MB

Rimac

Do you remember how many Mb has been the Oreo update ? Thanks in advance for your kind information.

MLAVRA

Android phones live their own lives. Despite being digital devices (yes-no, zero-one, works-doesn't work) it seems that they have some adjustment / calibration period when new software is installed. This means that some time is needed for everything to get in place. This is the case even when you do the factory reset. Well, after several days of using OREO on my H990DS - AME version, things are getting better and better. It is now very smooth, fast and precise. Battery life is better than before the update, but this is true mainly in standby, when screen is off. Some of the programmes work a bit differently but this is down to programme developers. Related to new features: LDAC codec is an asset! Being the audio power house, LGV20 got the only thing that was missing - high quality audio over Bluetooth. Haven't tried PiP because I don't use VLC and I am not a paid subscriber of YouTube, but all video players and other programmes work in split screen (improved compatibility in OREO) if needed and the native LG's video player also works in Q-Slide and that is a real PiP. One needs to get used to the way how notifications work now, but once you figure it out, you may customize them to your needs. The experience is good; the feeling is like I have a new phone.

jay

24/12/2018 still no update for LG V20 and not sure whats happening LG company. As they built good phones without maintenance which creating bad image to the company

Anonymous

Mine hasn't yet. Fingers crossed...

Anonymous

I'm from the Philippines also and currently using a V20 H990DS version. My V20 already acquired the Oreo update last November.

Anonymous

Is the Indian version also receiving the oreo update? Anyone

smartfhr

Got Oreo on h990ds AME and IDN 3 days ago. The camera can be used now when the battery is below 5 percent. Memory was usually about 52 percent, now it's about 72 percent. The same on both. A little bit more space in the internal memory 48-52gb. The best antutu was 149, now 159, probably because I did not install all apps after reset. No ghosting. The rest are all the same, just different picture icons, like for kids.

Anonymous

When lg v20 be update to oreo in Philippines

MLAVRA

Fully agree. It might be a little snappier, the rest, including battery life, pretty much the same. The advantage I see is the LDAC codec which works great with my Sony soundbar (over bluetooth).

Anonymous

No Oreo update yet for my H990DS B&O V20 (-ESA-xx variant). It's one of my two V20's which has image retention/ghosting. The other one, the non-B&O H990DS (-AME-XX variant) did not have any image retention/ghosting problems before and after Oreo update.

Rimac

Thanks buddy for your detailed information about some questionable improvements with the Oreo update.

Anonymous

One thing i like is the smart doctor with optimizations and battery saving options

Anonymous

Also received the OTA update to Oreo on my non-B&O V20 (-AME-XX variant). Highest bit rate for 4K videos has been downgraded from 64Mbps to 52Mbps. It's likely going to cause video quality degradation while consuming less storage space. A few changes in the user interface, but not much different from Nougat. At least the security update is now November 1, 2018 (previously, it was January 1, 2018). Overall, the only significant thing the Oreo update brings is the November 2018 security patch. Fluidity and battery life about the same before and after the Oreo update.

Fred

Man this software update version for lg v20 AMExx works good for my battery I bet.

Anonymous

Guys, after Oreo noticed a high battery drain, the ui is not so smooth

Anonymous

At last update came for Lg v20 AME yessssss!!!

Himanshu Sharma

Update done, it's Oreo 8.0.0, build number OPR1.170623.032, SW version V20a-AME-XX. It retained my highly customized menu system, generally phone is behaving ok, no surprise. Some UI changes very evident, will use for next few hours and update anything I notice.

Himanshu Sharma

I just got a SW update message on my H990DS V10h-AME-XX version V20 phone. Update message shows version as v20a-NOV-21-2018 and has 1860.69 MB size. Have started downloading using LG bridge. I will update back once done.

sohi.farhad

I received Oreo Update (I hope so. because this update size is 1.8GB) right now - LG V20 AME version. it's downloading

RMMM

Just got Oreo update on my V20 version H990DS AME !!!! URAAAAAAAAA !!!!!

dusan83ar

Finally, oreo arrived for AME version - Serbia.

Anonymous

After no hope for oreo, can i flash oreo SEA rom for the AME

boii

do NOT BUY the 918- if you are not a T-Mobile customer!!!! I got scammed by ebay-seller, who said 100% working with my german SIM Card (EPlus)- That was a lie. The phone gets a network-lock. You can unlock it temporary 5x in 12 moths- bullsh!t. F-ck T-Mobile- best phone- biggest shtti scammer TMobile. Complete unlock is NOT possible. I asked TMobile USA, the ebay seller is completly retarded, they dont know what my problem is. TMobile unlock services DO NOT (!!!) work- any of them. I tried many tmobile unlock services. For fish sakes, dont buy the 918 if you do not live in USA and have TMobile- you'll get biggest depression like me if you waste your money. Now I can use it for 5 months, than I will buy maybe the other 918 versions cause the phone as it as, is absolutely beautiful and nice.

Anonymous

Blacklisting LG. I'll not consider another phone for at least next 10 years. I'm done. No update, no me!

Anonymous

The screen ghosting can be fixed using Blue Light filter app. The damaged DAC due to improper connection (AUX speaker connections that don't have sufficient pre-amplification, always result to disaster). It is the job of the auxiliary speaker's built in amplifier to amplify the sound. If the speaker can't do it with sufficient volume even at it's max settings, do not compensate its failure to amplify adequately by jacking up the V20's volume. It's courting disaster as you have learned.

Anonymous

pre order this phone when its launched, now this phone have so many problem like : screen ghosting(its really bad), broken dac for some reason ( connect it to speaker with aux and now there is some white noise everytime i listen to music) also its lag too as a owner of lg g2 and v20, i will never looked back to LG.

Anonymous

You have done the right thing, and I'm intended to do the same , get rid of V20 and switch to another brand.Just because of Lg's poor update service I hate it them now.

Trampakoulas

My first LG was the P880 4X HD (first 4 core phone that released back in 2012) and since then I had the G3, Stylus 3 and two V20. Last month sold one of the V20 and jumped off the train and got a Note 9. I WILL NEVER EVER touch an LG again.

Anonymous

LG recently updated the V20's 'LG mobile switch' app in both the - ESA-XX and - AME-XX H990DS variants. Clearly, LG wants V20 owners that still don't have Oreo to make a mobile switch to a newer model LG phone. (App is not compatible with non-LG phones). It is a tell-tale sign that the remaining V20 H990DS models still on Nougat will never get Oreo. Congratulations LG for making it to the GUINNESS book of world records: The FIRST and ONLY android phone in FLAGSHIP category to NEVER RECEIVE any major or even just a minor ANDROID SOFTWARE version update. Good luck LG. Your Mobile division won't be around long with this kind of service.

aeldor

It really is, friend. Type lg v20 replacement battery on ebay and enjoy ;) the Snapdragon 820 will not get outdated any time soon either.

Vegetarianwino

Bought the LG V20 from Amazon a couple of weeks ago. This phone is awesome! Because of the rumors of bootloops I decided to purchase the phone refurbished hoping that that issue had been addressed. I absolutely love this phone. It's very fast, the little info screen turns off when in your pocket, bookbag, or faced down. You don't need to turn the screen on to toggle the Wi-Fi or turn on thr flashlight. It has FM radio and infrared on all of its models. This, folks, is the perfect phone.

Anonymous

Refurbished phones are really not worth it unless you know exactly what kind of defect it was returned for. Ok if it's minor defect but many may have more serious critical defects that will resurface again even if repaired.

Rimac

Those who depend of large carriers are forced by its guidelines.

Albright

You'll call it, refurbished or whatever you define it, I bought from LG office

aeldor

Wow, thank you for this extensive review. It was entertaining and useful. I totally agree with it.

aeldor

Btw you cannot root the h918 anymore :( T mobile have removed the flash recovery command so the classical method to install a custom recovery software no longer works. T mobile are evil asshats. Very evil. They stand in the way of freedom of software and want to bring about oppression and digital dictatorship on earth. Perhaps a workaround is underway but in any case, avoid TMobile.

aeldor

LOL. You cannot find a battery? Just type LG V20 battery on ebay and you will be reborn haha. Lol dude, this really made me laugh. I got this phone mostly because of the battery ahahhahah.

Anonymous

They were definitely not brand new. More like damaged/mishandled V20's that are refurbished and are used as replacements by providers to customers who claim warranty and replacement of their V20 phones.

Anonymous

Root the phone and can update to Android Pie.

Albright

I replaced 3 phnoes of lg v20 from a local store I bought it, it doesn't last to one week, it'll go off, without been on low charge, it'll only display on the screen ( LG powered by Android,) you can't access anything again, So the forth one, I took it to. Local repair, before it could come back to life again. About 3wks now, it has been deleting rear camera pictures automatically, only the selfie camera picture that doesn't delete. And also is lagging roboting many times, but my own phone up to day,

Anonymous

Yes, the story below of multiple defects in the V20 is definitely a fabrication. The too many numerous defects mentioned: call and text defects, auto deletes photos everywhere (internal memory and external memory), battery defects with no replacement available whatsoever, GPS defects, strange usb c connectors that don't work with chargers or won't transfer files to laptop, etc. really sound very fake than real. As for your comment on software updates, now that is a VERY REAL issue not only on the V20 but ALL LG phones. Given LG's HORRIBLE software update support for many of the other international variants of the V20 that never received Oreo, and given that you see and hear the same complaints (no software updates/super delayed updates) in other year old LG flagship phones that are international variants as well (you can go to their individual forums/comments section), I am in agreement with you that NOBODY SHOULD EVER BUY ANY new model LG PHONE ANYMORE. The software update support is only bound to get worse with LG mobile division continuing to bleed and losing market share. It's downhill for LG since the V20.

Anonymous

Even if neither of them is true still one thing is true which puts me off this brand and wish hadn't bought it.The reason is soft update.Let alone it has poor update service , it WILL discriminate among its own V20s regarding the updates.While some regions got Oreo already,the others will never get.What kind of approach that is I still cannot understand.

RichSPK

Note that the Oreo (8.0) update has been available for the H918 (T-Mobile) for a while now. It's not available only in S. Korea; this page just hasn't been updated as of this writing.

Rimac

Go quickly to buy the vedette phone of the year to use no more than a year and half.

Anonymous

Your claims of multiple defects in a single V20 that weren't resolved at all with a battery change (change to new, not fake and not defective battery), a new micro sd card card change (change to new, not fake and not defective micro sd card) and other defects that a factory reset of the unit while installing any software updates did not solve only point to two possibilities: 1. That the V20 is defective/refurbished/fake or 2. The story is a tall tale to coax customers to choose instead more expensive carrier plans / phone models. I'm inclined to think it's number 2.

Anonymous

Do not buy an LG v20 phone. Especially not LG v20. Battery is dead after 6 months of not much use; and it's impossible to find a replacement that actually fits the phone. Phone is unreliable: GPS is messed up; you can call out, hear the person you called, but they can't hear you. Texting is very iffy. Storage - the phone deletes pics and documents just like that, all by itself - and don't bother with a memory card backup - it deletes that too. The connectors are different from all other phones, and are very expensive. Mobile chargers do not connect to this phone; nor will it connect to your laptop. The salesperson at Verizon told me that they do not expect this phone to last more than 2 years, and that i was lucky mine lasted 20 months. It is not paid for, and already doesn't work. The insurance I paid for is useless - they send a refurbished phone, no cover, no battery - which does not matter because the refurbished phone does not work any better than your own phone. A one-star rating is too good for the LG v20 cell phone.

Anonymous

They were already mentioned in the long post below. (14 Pros). Cons were also mentioned (no Oreo for some models, not waterproof, image retention in some units). Some missing features you may prefer but are not really 'cons': wireless charging, bezel-less screen, below 4000mAh battery, etc.

Anonymous

Just because of this reason it is my first and last Lg brand phone.

Anonymous

What are the pros and cons about this phone please? Thanks in advance.

Anonymous

I highly doubt if Oreo will ever come to the AME, ESA and other H990DS variants. LG is probably done with the V20 updates after updating just the US carrier versions, Korean version and SEA and TWN versions.

Anonymous

Still no Oreo for AME

Kingslayer

LG V20 is still a great phone two years after release. It's my go-to phone once I get home.

Chudo

Ahaha...reliable source...Even if the LG itself would release such info,we still should take it as 25% truth

Chudo

Have you tried to factory reset it?

Chudo

Depends on what you prefer on the phone.For me it is really good all-rounder and it plays all the games,has great sound through headphones,good camera ,not the best battery life but that's why we can swap it in a few seconds (need to buy battery recharging dock and it usually comes with another battery) and be forever independent from the wall plug.It's not water resistant but I don't really see the reason for this hype anyways,unless you live in Atlantida.The only downside is the display ghosting,there's a chance your unit can have it and it is quite noticeable,so it's a lottery (not a problem if you have an LG store near you as they will most likely swap it for a new unit if you take it in guarantee,otherwise-not worth the pain).It will most likely (99% imho) not get any major updates following oreo.I would put a screen protector as it is most vulnerable point of this phone (regarding the rest of it's body,you can play football with it) That's my two cents,I hope it helped (btw watch some recent videos on youtube about it)

Anonymous

For discriminating users who value phone longevity, and for specific users who want their phone to replace so many things and do so many things other smartphones can't, YES. There's just no substitute for the V20 H990DS. Otherwise, if you like to change phones and upgrade phones frequently and just use your phone for Facebook, Youtube, shopping, browsing and some gaming, then there's an OCEAN of many other alternative choices. As for me though, I'm stuck with my V20 (I have two of them: B&O and non-B&O version) because even though they were never updated to Oreo and even if one had screen retention problem if I don't use Bluelight filter app, there's nothing quite like the V20 for my highly diverse and demanding needs and wants. The features which made me stick with my V20 (H990DS) are the following, that is, despite LG's HORRIBLE software update support (possibly the MOST horrible in the flagship android world) and despite LG's sloppy quality control (some B&O units have screen retention problem like mine): 1. The V20 has a built-in IR blaster to control all your appliances including those of your noisy neighbors. Volume of their sound system too high? Turn it down or turn it off with your V20 secretly through their window. It will scare the hell out of them so they will stop being noisy. Want to input your song number in a karaoke player? You can do it with your V20! Aircon? TV? Washing Machine? Car stereo? Teach your V20. It has a learn mode! Just REALLY spend time learning how to use it and customizing it and you'll wonder how you ever survived using a phone without one. 2. The V20 has dedicated sd card slot, not that stupid hybrid slot where you are forced to choose between dual SIM or one SIM + SD card only. With the V20, you can use the 2 SIM slots AND still add your SD card. What's more, the V20 supports 400GB micro sd cards which are now just $99.99 at Amazon.com and also supports up to 2TB micro sd cards (when they become available). 3. The V20 is the ONLY recent flagship with analog FM radio. All the rest have removed it. When theres a calamity, you'll realize its utmost value when nothing other than your FM radio is working. When you just have to listen to your favorite DJ on those long trips without data available, you are going to realize how much you miss not having an FM radio with you, anytime, anywhere, without wasting data and draining your battery in the process. 4. The V20 has drop resistance which ensures your phone will handle drops. More important than waterproofing really. I have dropped my phone a lot more times than wetting it with liquid and damaging it in the process. You can buy a waterproof case too if needed. 5. The V20 has slimport (hdmi out/4K video out) capability. Wireless screen share of movies is nice but results to downgrade in video quality due to WiDi bandwidth limitations. Not so with slimport. Also, the V20 is licensed to play Google Play movies in HD. You may not be aware of it or notice it but on a Xiaomi, Huawei, Oppo, Vivo, Oneplus, Lenovo, and other lesser known phones, HD playback on the phone of Google play movies is not allowed even if the phone is capable. It's a DRM (digital rights management) /studio thing. You can't change it. 6. The V20 has removable battery. Low batt? Replace with a fully charged spare while charging the depleted battery using an external charger accessory. That means no charging time needed, no wear and tear of usb port (loosening), and no frequent exposure of phone internals from heat generated due to charging. Forget slow wireless charging! Why accelerate battery wear with even more heat? Removable battery and external charging is best! 7. The V20 has high quality audio recording, high-quality 4K 30fps video capture with FULL MANUAL controls and SUPERB photo capture with dual cameras and FULL MANUAL controls. 8. The V20 has a high resolution QHD IPS display with SECOND SCREEN. Place app shortcuts, your name or even Christmas greetings or whatever you like (Halloween, Valentines, emojis, etc.) on the second screen. 9. The V20 has fast charging when you need it through USB-C. It's OTG compatible too! USB thumb drives, external hard drives, even those in NTFS and exFAT formats (not limited to FAT32) can be read with the proper app. 10. The V20 has analog headphone jack when all the rest have removed it. Connect your home theater receiver/amplifier to it, your treadmill, your workplace sound system, your TV , your PC monitor with built in speakers, etc! The 3.5mm jack is not just for wired headphones really. Losing it is a big deal for many. 11. The V20 has LTE advanced (4G+) with support for wall penetrating 700mhz. It has ABILITY to FORCE network mode to 4G/4G+ only (LTE only) for those places where the auto mode (GSM/WCDMA/LTE auto) keeps on giving you the slower HSPA/HSPA+ (H/H+) signal. You can't do that on iPhones, Huaweis and Samsungs. 12. The V20's screen is a bright, 5.7" IPS panel in ideal 16:9 aspect ratio. 18:9 may be IN nowadays but consider this: 18:9 screen actually makes Facebook photo feeds smaller! 18:9 is too narrow. It makes keyboard typing cramped for the same screen diagonal! Reading in 18:9 curved phones look like reading text from a bottle of shampoo! Too much scroll! Amoled screens look nice, but if you didn't know already, they actually have much shorter life span than IPS panels. Amoleds tend to burn all their blue pixels and white pixels faster than the red and green ones, losing brightness faster with time and skewing the white balance towards reddish or amber tones. Microled (not Amoled) is the true LCD successor. 13. The V20 has sufficiently powerful processor and now costs already below $300. It has no longer the fastest flagship processor (it was released in 2016) but really, you don't need the fastest processor for Facebook, Mobile Legends and Clash of Clans! Processors are like cars. The only benefit of the fastest cars are bragging rights and speeds in the race track. They're barely noticeable in everyday city driving. 14. The V20 supports hidden SSID in hotspot. Want to share your V20's data connection to your other devices via wifi hotspot without letting others know? Just set the SSID to hidden and nobody will ever ask you what your wifi/hotspot password is. If you need and want all of those 14 features, then, YES, the V20 is still very relevant in 2018, and likely beyond. Otherwise, there are lots other alternatives for the usual Facebook /selfie/Youtube/shopping/gaming only oriented phone user.

Rimac

I bought the V20 eighteen months ago basically for music matters. I use it commonly wired to a loudspeaker and since the purchase never i has been disappointed.

Anonymous

The sound quality difference is noticeable even if you don't use any equalizer. The V20's quad DAC brings out the best in any music if you like to listen to music flat (that is, no equalizer adjustments), and yes, the quality difference is noticeable even if you use a different headphone brand than what I'm using. As for me though, I do like a specific sound signature when playing my music files (flac and mp3) and so I use an equalizer app all the time when music listening with my V20. My favorite music player is BS Player used simultaneously with Equalizer FX app (both can be downloaded from playstore). If you are interested in a transparent sound signature with realistic, an almost 'live', 'in there' sounding vocals/midrange (an almost real feeling of the singer's 'presence' performing live in front of you), wide soundstage, deep bass and crystal clear highs without being harsh and irritating, here are my equalizer settings for the V20 (B&O version) when used either with wired headphones or bluetooth earbuds. If you want to listen to impeccable sound quality in the exact way I hear it in my V20, use either the Xiaomi Mi Sport bluetooth earbuds and/or Audio-Technica ATH M50s LE headphones which I am currently using with these equalizer settings: Music player: BSplayer free Equalizer app: Equalizer FX Settings for Equalizer FX: 60Hz: +10.0dB 230Hz: +1.0dB 910Hz: 0.0db 3Khz: +12.0db 14Khz: +4.0db Virtualization: On (set bar to around 20% of total length) I get superb, excellent sound from these settings: wired or wireless especially with high quality FLAC music or high bit rate MP3. I have the B&O version H990DS LG V20. (The non B&O version may have a different sound signature and therefore may require different equalizer settings). Note: For wired headphone, I like the sound signature better with the "HiFi Quad DAC" turned off/disabled.

Anonymous

Is this phone still worth it in 2018/19? Thanks in advance.

Anonymous

None of them, I own Lg V20 which came with Android 7 and seems gonna die with it.Lg is very mean with updates.I would suggest Pixel.

Anonymous

Does anyone use sony walkman, is it better vs v20 quad dac or the difference is unnoticeable.

Anonymous

My experience, with LG V20 is outstanding💓 I love my phone, I do lots of stuff with this phone. I like it a lot.

NASI sarhan

I used LG v20 for 1.5 years and then as always good things comes to an end. My phone was damaged due to water. But honestly the camera was superb. And the images taken were vivid and full of life. Phone was awesome. But LG lacks good customer support.

Anonymous

Follow this guide guys and use the refurbish option to flash oreo kdz from any region. Mine worked like a cham. Was AME and I refurbed it with SEA kdz. No bootlooos. I love the oreo look. No probs so far. Make a backup and restore ur stuff after.

Anonymous

I can't blame your frustration. I admit, LG's dying mobile phone sales and dying mobile market share is greatly worsening LG's software update support. Poor software update support is actually the #1 most horrible aspect of owning an LG smartphone--- it is very prevalent even in flagship LG phones (majority of unlocked international models are left stagnant without any major android software updates and without even security patches sunce January 2018).

Asif_Shahzad

Well.... i think if LG is not very much serious about their cell phone products, they should consider their previous complains about LG devices first, and than go on for new models. They should pay attention to customer's demand and complain for a streamline in cell phone field. I can't understand why they don't have proper management body regarding to deal cell phone issues.

Slaw

Yeah, well....you know, that's just like...uh...your opinion, man. And we are still waiting for your opinion to come true. :)

Anonymous

You can say that again.Never ever again will go with LG.It came with android 7 and here is the end of November but still no sign of Android 8.Moreover I cannot understand the discrimination in the V20 models: one model gets Android while the others do not. For example mine is V20 H990DS AME still no Oreo while T-mobile got it already.

sohi.farhad

One hundred percent this is my (first and) last LG phone. more than two years without any OS update . shame on LG group. shame on you. your phone section will bankrupt soon.

Texas7412

Great phone overall. Absolutely love it and the battery can last more than 68 hours.. from a half charge took 80 hours and was at 5%.. From a full charge it could last double that.. I highly recommend this phone to anyone looking to buy it.

AbrahamZ

Hi fortunately I just discovered the mistake that keep my v20 rebooting itself, and i hope help some other people that happen the same and don't know what to do, well the cause was the hell fingerprint, it is ruined, when i get in to config...fingerprints and security my phone freeze and then reboot, bcz the fingerprint is ruined and it ruin the system and then crash the system now I'm unable to delete my registrered fingerprints but i have planned to buy a new one remplaice, in conclussion is not Software or chipset problem, or overheat, or the famous "bootloop", its just the fingerprint that spit my life- thanks for reply and sorry for mu bad english

MLAVRA

If you have SD card, remove it and try again. If it starts behaving normally then try to format card and put it back.

Rimac

According your explanation unfortunately fell on your hands a very uncommon but possible case of this insidious trouble. The first case that has been reported here.

AbrahamZ

Hi I hope someone can help me, I got a problem that don't let me sleep in peacefully, 5 days ago i was using my v20 normal usage, I was listening to music and then it just reboot itself, I thought it was normal but it keeps rebooting itself from that day every 5-10 mins of usage, I already did a factory reset and it keep rebooting, today I buyed a new battery and unfortunately it keeps same... Is there someone else that happens the same?? I don't know what to do, is not a bootloop bcz it always get in to system and is not an app that that I installed bcz already boot in safe mode and it keep same, and I never rooted it or update itit keep on nougat 7.0 sorry for my bad English, hope someone can help me..

V20fanboy12

I have had the v20 for a year the exchange for battery is awesome I bought a battery charger separate from the phone it works great phone does not get hot and so far no boot loop I purchased it off of Amazon refurbished have had no issues so far I think part of it is where you buy the refurbished from

Anonymous

Best phone i ever had. Much better then Lg G4. The replacement batteries hugh plus. At first I was not crazy about the large size but after awhile you get used to it. The speakers pretty good but having it at the bottom of the phone is a little unusual. While LG's customer service is nothing to brag. But the phone itself is top-notch. it's fast and best of all unlike the LG 4 it does not get hot. It has a lot of photo options but I'm not very good at using those the memory is large and 64 the worst problem with it is too much bloatware that comes with the phone but that's not the phone's fault as I said before being able to replace the battery and the easy access with the side button has been great I carry an extra battery and has been a huge benefit if I had a choice I would never go back to the non replaceable battery phones for me this is the best phone if I had one other request it would be a better camera for the one that has isn't bad you just can't do distance shots you'll need some kind of adapter

Pups

Screenburn issue, if device is under warranty, LG wil replace display, but wil face same issue later on.

PhantomAndroid

This is an absolutely fantastic phone if you know what you're doing with it. I've bought 3 of these already and so far all of them have been working well. (note that there are shady refurbished ones out there) My suggestions: replace the thermal paste and add some metal to the inside of the phone as this will make a world of difference in terms of heat dissipation. Install the camera port from the pixel phone. Root the phone and change the thermal throttling specifications as this sometimes slows down the phone's gaming abilities. And finally, buy a 6,700 mAh battery! You'll thank me later for it!

Rimac

I feel a lot of your problem with the first display and hope now can you enjoy the V20 as I with two, by an audio assembly theme in videos. Here we do not have the problems that the great carriers suppose. Regards.

aeldor

Hehe, Rimac, I'm just about to get my second V20 with the same idea. :D I chipped the display of my first one, ordered a new display, replaced it but the cheap chinese one is faulty, so I'm just going to get a new phone anyway. And I can install LineageOS on it and be a free person yeeaaah! I totally disliked the Oreo update though because the t mobile bloatware got updated as well and now it's asking me to confirm whether want to turn my mobile data on or off every fucking time. It's annoying. Anyway, rooting should take care of it.

Rimac

Seventeen months ago I bought one V20, four months later the second, with the basic idea of having phone (I'm an old man) lifetime. The LG software update installed a pair of weeks ago seems doesn't have virus to planed obsolescence, something that is at present usual.

Anonymous

Yes, the previous LG phones (LG G4 in particular) had known bootloop issues which are higher than normal levels. Not the V20. Phones manufacturerd always have defective units but they are very few and isolated to begin with to claim the phone model has a bootloop issue. Even Samsungs and iphones have units that bootloop but its not widespread to be called an issue. Same wirh the V20. Onlybthe G4bhadba real bootloop issue.

sUDS

I bought a refurbished LG V20 from Aliexpress last Dec. It arrived in Jan. Within a few weeks I noticed that it would freeze and reboots inexplicably. I contacted LG to see if I could get it fixed. It was not under warranty so I offered to pay for them to fix it. Then they tell me it was not refurbished by them so the product has been tampered with. As a result they have refused to touch the phone. By online research did indicate that a few of their models have had boot issues. Including the V20:

Anonymous

Yes, just use the slider to change the intensity to 1%, 2% or 3%. As for the software update, restart your phone and download the update again.

Rudy

Thank you for your help, I have found NIGHT SHIFT- BLUE LIGHT FILTER by LEAP FITNESS GROUP. I installed the app but I could not find the intensity number , you can change it but you cannot you the Values. Also please I wanted to ask you, during Software upgrade it was interrupted when it reached 600 M BYTE download, trying to re-update again is not possible, the system prompts a message that your phone is up to date. Regards,

RaSh

The Indian version has also not received the Oreo update yet on V20 ..... Seems that LG is planning to exit the smartphone market so they are trying their best to make all their consumers hate them and to vow them that they never buy a LG smartphone again in life.

Anonymous

Do not tink v20 will get Pie cos as AME version has not received even Oreo and don't think will ever.It came with Nougat and gonna die with Nougat, this is my first and last Lg phone I have ever used, no more lg

Anonymous

It's called image or screen ghosting/retention. Download Blue Light Filter app' by 'Leap Fitness Group' in Google Playstore, launch the app and use the following settings: Night Mode: toggle 'ON', Color temperature: 4500K (Tap 'sun and clouds' icon and tap 'OK' when prompted it is not good for sleeping), Intensity: 0-1% Screen dim: 3-5% Set auto timer: toggle 'OFF' Set Notification bar: toggle 'OFF' It will solve your screen retention issues with the V20.

Anonymous

I've read an article from a reliable source that V20 would get the Pie update in 2019. But that won't stop me from upgrading to V30+. I have my reasons.

Rudy

Please I want to ask you, I have an issue in the Home screen it is showing residue of certain icons to the left of the screen, you can see residue of other applications used, example the Icon IMO (or any previous used) still shows when you scroll left. It shows at the background in very light colors,Any ideas how to solve it.

Shahryar

Ooo man how badly i need this phone man one of the few phonws in the world having a ir blaster and headphone jack replaceable battery and man I love the second screen for my music control just scared af bcz my last lg v10 got bootlooped and I don't know if I'm up for this one currently using a Moto z force it's a good phone as a whole but not as appealing as the v20😫😫😫.

Reda

Hi guys, I have a H918 T-Mobile V20, and I upgraded it to Oreo 1 month ago. One day the phone asked me if I want to upgrade. I choose yes and it did all by itself, after reboot it was Oreo 8.0.0 ver H91820f.

aeldor

Hey, guys, do you know if the h910 (at&t) and the korean version (f800) come with preinstalled additional software? (like the h918 which comes with some t mobile crap).

Anonymous

Actually, xx-ESA also hasn't received Oreo.

AME

You are sooo right! V20 is my first and last LG phone. Too bad that it is a nice and good phone, but I'm tired waiting for updates.

RaSh

The Indian version has also not received the Oreo update yet on V20 ..... Seems that LG is planning to exit the smartphone market so they are trying their best to make all their consumers hate them and to vow them that they never buy a LG smartphone again in life.

Anonymous

I do not understand either what the delay for Or may be they do not care.Cos as far as I know the only one which hasn't received Oreo is AME, rigth?

Anonymous

Why all that unjustified delay for Oreo update to H990ds AME xx. Lg do you hear us or playing deaf?

Aeldor

Thank you, Chudo, almost worked. I didn't know about these options. I guess the display is just faulty.

Chudo

Yes.But check radio frequencies because it is made for Korean market specifically and may be not compatible with your provider if you are based outside of Korea.

Chudo

Try this: Settings->general->accessibility->visio­n->screen colour adjustment

Anonymous

hi...lg v20 f800K/L/S vertion is an original??anyone know?(korea vertion)

Aeldor

Question, friends: So, my phone fell down twice and got two chips on the display in each upper corner. I ordered a replacement display from China for about 30 something EUR and I've just replaced it and the colors look somehow pale. As if the red light is not bright enough. So, has anyone had a similar experience? Do I have to buy a more expensive display? Or...? Other than that, this is a marvel of a phone with the large aftermarket batteries :)

Chudo

Ofcorse they want us to buy their new devices.But as you said,NO WAY after their treated us the way they did

Kingslayer

Over two years since release, and still a great smartphone to use. Turning off the battery percentage killed off like 100% of my paranoia. I have considered selling it many times before along with my iPhone SE. I love both phones and rank them my #3 and #4 all-time favs but I grow tired iOS and the V20's size. My G5 and V20 are too similar anyway. There is redundancy there but at the same time, I want that redundancy in case one breaks down or gets lost. Also, I prefer browsing on my V20 at home than my G5. I prefer listening to audio, typing notes, and light browsing on my G5. The G5 UI is also more fluid. I have considered selling my V20 and SE to get the smaller Pixel 3 (black/128 GB). So it would be my Essential, Pixel 3, and G5 going forward. It's still on the table but I hate the fact that the Pixel 3 has below average battery life. Reason I still can't do it is because the V20 is an extra TV remote for me and I will miss removable battery and expandable storage. The V20 is likely a keeper for life for me even though it has T-Mobile bloat. I plan to stay with the $40 T-Mobile prepaid for a long time anyway.

LgV20 user

Maybe they want to make us buy their last devices, that's why they are so late with the updates for old devices, but with this attitude they make many people never buy lg again. They don't respect customers. I like V20 a lot, it is a great phone. The only thing i don't like is battery life and i hope after the update to oreo this problem will be solved and the battery will last longer, although there is the possibility to be worst.

RaSh

Nor for V20 H990DS Indian version such kind of attitude against there such a great Device and consumers is just too bad.

Anonymous

They don't care about customers

Anonymous

you are right , I dont think they care about AME

V20 user

Nothing yet on H990DS AME. I don't think they'll update this variant

Anonymous

Don't have Oreo yet but try this if you are experiencing lags with your V20. (Menu system may be slightly different under Oreo): 1. Disable auto update of playstore apps. Set to: "Do not update." Let all background updates that you can't disable (Play store, Play services, etc.) update completely. Be sure LTE data connection or wifi connection is fast and not having connectivity/speed problems. (Play services that can't update due to slow internet connection can create lags if update is auto started but not completed). 2. Go to settings -> general -> apps -> configure apps (three dots at the upper right) -> special access. Choose: Ignore optimizations - turn ON for All apps (default is off) From the same 'special access' menu, Choose next: Draw over other apps - turn OFF for ALL apps. (except messaging) 3. Enable developer options if not enabled already. First, turn ON 'force gpu rendering' Then set window animation scale, transition animation scale and animator duration scale to 0.5 for all three. Then restart phone. 4. Download Nova Launcher Go to nova settings -> look and feel Set both 'scroll speed' and 'animation speed' to 'fast'. 5. If internal storage is 2/3 to near full, transfer media files to a genuine/authentic class 10 micro sd card. (Counterfeit cards or lower speed class 4 micro sd cards create lag problems). Also ensure micro sd card is not near full. Don't move any apps to micro sd card. If V20 still lags, then it could be 'planned obsolescence' strategy by LG to force you to upgrade to V40. Other users who got Oreo haven't complained of lags though so let's hope yours is an isolated case (maybe some misbehaving apps under Oreo).

Chudo

3 phones? Man what are you doing with them?Either you are lying or failing in rooting and now you came here to pull this magnificent device through the mudd for your evil mischief agenda to deprive it's greatness.

Chudo

Anyone having constant lag in menu after the update?I have factory reseted it before and after the update and it noticeably lags on all menu tabs even 3 weeks after the update :(

MLAVRA

C'mon guys! Every 3-4 months someone asks a question about bootloop of V20. This is trolling, you might have fun but this is neither funny nor interesting anymore.

Hyde

been using this phone for 2 years, absolutely no issues at all so far.

Qaz1qaz1qa

I have had 3 phone go into boot loop. Pretty much it will be the battery is too hot. Just let it cool down for a significant period. Try again. You can put in freezer for 30 INSIDE a plastic bag. Seems to fix a myroid of troubles. Just keep in bag for a worm up time once out. DO NOT charge till warm.

Anonymous

I have it for almost a year and i didn't have that problem. It's a very good phone, except the battery

Anonymous

2 pcs No bootloop bit little bit hot and ghost screen

Elahi

Anyone tell me plz,lg v20 have bootloop issue?

Lyly

Have you noticed any improvement after the update?

Lg V20 user

Been using mine for over a year now. No bootloop issues yet.

Dexter

Hi is there a bootloop issue on lgv20 ??

Sasa

v20a-twn-xx h990ds, made in taiwan.

Sasa

No, I have H990DS TWN, Made in Taiwan.

Mark

What is better after the update?

MLAVRA

There was never a release for Serbia or even Europe. I live there and use AME (Africa -Middle East) which was commonly sold in this region. There is still no update for AME. May you kindly check your 3 letter code which denominates the region for which software was tailored?

Anonymous

And do you have ame model? I'm from Romania and I have h990ds AME. We are close, maybe I'll get the most expected Oreo next days :))

Sasa

what is ame?

Anonymous

Serbia; Europe.

RaSh

Which region or country?

Sasa

Me too.

Anonymous

990ds on ame?

Anonymous

On AME?

TrongTuyen96

I have just check and I got an Oreo update on my LG H990DS, the version is v20a-SEP-20-2018. Its about 1853 MB.

Sasa

I Got Oreo for H990DS today.

Anonymous

:( We wait so much for oreo... I hope we won't be disappointed after we receive the update. It must be an improvement for our phones

Anonymous

I have AME and still no oreo

Denyzz

I guess is IND for India... Not sure

RaSh

My current software version is V10j-IND-XX and I am not able to understand in which region does this phone belong or may be I am unable to find the region can anyone help me out

Denyzz

Do you have AME model? I have AME and still no oreo for me. I guess AME will be the last one.

RaSh

Still no update for my device wondering why. Is your model H990ds?

Avijit

Yes I got tge oreo update as given by lg. I got it around tge start of october itself.

Domestoboto

Is your headphones already on the LDAC mode? Because on most Sony headphones, you have to switch what mode your headphone is on (SBC, AAC, APTX, LDAC)

Anonymous

That's nice to know. In 2 weeks, it will probably be - ESA-xx turn and in another 2 weeks after - ESA-xx, it will be - AME-xx turn.

DonSing

Oreo 8 is being downloaded to my LG H990DS version V20a-SEA-xx today in Singapore.

Anonymous

I guess we will get it for AME hopefully in November - December

Anonymous

I think AME will be the last one. Let's hope we'll get the update before Christmas :)

N00b

Hey how did you get an update!? It hasn't shown on my lgv20

Sandman2188

Hello, I just got 8.0 update, but the LDAC does not work. I have a pair of LDAC sony headphones and i connect them and it only works with aptX. I go in developer options and I select all LDAC options but when i go back they reset again to aptX. Any ideas?

Anonymous

India is in South Asia region. There has been no Oreo update yet (OTA or through LG Bridge) for - ESA-xx (Eastern and South Asia country variants of the H990DS of the V20. As for - AME-XX, it will likely come a week after the - ESA-xx variants get their OTA.

kisna dr

Nope brother, not until 18/10, 12 noon. Will post it if it gets any update.

Anonymous

I have done it all, and it says it is uptodate, guess it is AME-XX version which still hasn't received an update

Anonymous

Yes you right no more icon for full battery. I just get noticed when "Fully Charged" when double tap the screen. I approx the battery full in 1.3hours. How yours?

Anonymous

I dont get notification from phone even i refresh the update many time. I get the update through LG Bridge. Make sure you change the "charging" to "file transfer" when usb cable connected from PC to your phone. Go to setting and search for LG AirDrive. After that sign in LG AirDrive in your phone. How to Sign in your LG AirDrive? Sign in using your google account. Then just click YES/AGREE for the other step. Then Click the Software Update. After that the update for h990ds will appear. Then proceed to next step. Reminder MAKE SURE YOU DONT UNPLUG YOUR PHONE WHILE DOWNLOADING THE UPDATE!!!. If you want more guide on how to update through LG BRIGDE search on Google on how to use LG Bridge on your phone. They give the easiest method to guide you on how to use it. Very easy step they also concluded the image so LG user could understand. H990 version should already have the oreo update!

Anonymous

Yes change it to file transfer.

Chudo

Did you installed lg drivers on the PC and switched the connection from "charging only" to "file transfer mode" on the phone?

Anonymous

Do not waste your breath, I tried Lg bridge and there is still no update, once they push update you will get notification on your phone , just set your update to automatic

RaSh

Anyone from India who got oreo on V20 H990DS. Still waiting😞 No update

sai

Hi, I have installed lg bridge on pc and if i connect my V20 using data cable, it shows no device connected. I have tried all the usb connection options.

DL

Slide down the notification and you'll see a system UI msg informing battery full. I dunno how to make it display the batt full icon...

Anonymous

It's actually the best android launcher bar none - the most customizable, very fluid, battery efficient, light on resources (doesn't overuse the RAM or overwork the phone's processor) and very stable (no crashes). It can be tough though for beginners and the multitude of customization options and settings can get really get overwhelming and complicated for those who have never used a launcher before, outside their phone's native launcher.

GrazD

I tried it once but I thought Nova Launcher was totally useless with app folders so I deleted it.

Anonymous

I got oreo on my TWN h990ds. I dont get notification update on phone. I get it from LG BRIDGE which is LG app i install on pc. I connect my usb and check the software update through there. Hope this will help for those who still not get the oreo. Try install LG Bridge on your PC then connect ur phone with usb cable. Log in to your LG Airdrive in your smartphone then just follow the step.

Anonymous

A big THANK YOU for the much awaited Oreo update! For those who still haven't received the update yet, just wait a little longer, it will come later this year... Android Pie may or may not arrive on our V20s. Assuming it will, its ETA would be Q3 2019. I can't wait that long. The price of the V35 ThinQ/V40 ThinQ will be cheaper around that time so I might buy either of the two... As a power user of the V20, I can guarantee you, it's is a legit beast, yet sadly, the last of its kind. Its Quad DAC and Audio & Video capabilities are the main reasons why I'm hesistant to sell it... I long for consistent minor and major software updates on a smartphone, and LG still sucks at it. My previous smartphone was a Xiaomi, and they cater weekly updates as far as I know.

JayB

I don't get battery full notification icon on this new update and am not happy about it, i use to get notification when battery fully charged when phone is in idle, but now i just have to check to see if my battery is full, Not very cool with this.

Rimac

Be realistics. The OS Android updates on the V20 are too much nice to be true.

Anonymous

Maybe this week, next week, next month..:((( Still waiting, too

Himanshu Sharma

Though I'm not fan of updates as such, the V10h-AME-XX is a bit too old, must get an update... No security patches either after Feb. Waiting patiently for the security patches itself.

Anonymous

They said: "at the end of October"

botek

be patience my friend. it will come. i'm feeling the same way when i was waiting....

Anonymous

seems like they forgot about AME-XX H990DS V20 users.Still nothing :(((

botek

I'm hoping u very soon too. The battery life definitely lasted longer than before after few days using. I'm a fan of LG phones. To me, they are just underrated for some user. They produces great, good and bad phones. I'm not denying that. But when they make great phones, they are really great.

botek

Awww... really?? That's strange. Did u go to Update centre in your phone to check for update??? Or have u tried using LG Bridge???

Anonymous

Ah yes! Thanks for the correction. :) Still waiting OTA for my - ESA-xx and - AME-XX H990DS V20's.

Anonymous

More like East and South Asia.

Anonymous

Still not check it

Anonymous

I think it's Eastern and South Africa.

Chudo

Have you tried to check over the LG bridge?

Anonymous

Download nova launcher and use it. It will give you all access to a multitude of customizations including changing the app icon, reducing app icon sizes, changing the home screen grid, animations speeds, number of dock pages and icons and so much more.

Anonymous

I have TWN but still no update.

GrazD

The battery life has improved for me with Oreo. If it's not good do a master reset after the Oreo update. I really like so many things about this update. The top status bar icons have got a little smaller. You can hide the softkeys in apps. The only thing I miss is the ability to change app icon on the homescreens which seems to have been removed.

Mag

That's a good news. I hope I'll receive the update soon. H990DS AME

botek

I would say its about the same, maybe a bit lasting than before in my opinion. But definitely works and feels better after update.

botek

I have both SEA and TWN H990DS version. Updated to Oreo yesterday via OTA. I'm from Malaysia too.

Chudo

No way to delete them through usual means...Maybe try with ES file exproler.I haven't used it for quite some time so I don't know if it'll work,especially on oreo.

Chudo

No but you can try to uninstall them with es file explorer.Not sure though,havent use that app for a while...

Anonymous

Still waiting in Romania

AnonD-760380

is it possible to remove these or other apps with enabled developer options?

Chudo

Yes,mine is also TWN.And also disabled facebook and instagram,but that doesn't change the fact that that was forced on us and we can not uninstall it.LG obviously think they can make idiots out of their customers by shawing Google's biggest spyware apps down our throats!F you,LG and google altogether.I see samsung is on the path of evolving their own ecosystem independant of google,in a couple of years they will have total sovereignty and I will hump on their boat,if they stop making glass swimmers instead of tank jumpers...

Mag

I hope it will be an improvement because the battery life is very bad now. It lasts less than a day with moderate use.

Anonymous

Me neither no oreo on h990ds malaysia

AnonD-760380

I can understand your anger. My TWW version purchased in Switzerland had Facebook and Instagram installed. I think nothing of both and have therefore deactivated. since then they have disappeared from the screen.

AnonD-760380

In my opinion, it is the same or even slightly better

kisna dr

Yeah, they are delaying a lot. Post here if you get any oreo update. Love from India.

Anonymous

what does ESA stand for? I got that model too

Chudo

Lol.in nougat LG forced us the facebook,now the instagram is also a system app and can't be uninstalled... This is definitely my last LG device (not just the phone)

RaSh

No update till now in Indian for Lg V20 H990DS.

Mag

I haven't received Oreo yet. But for those who have Oreo, how is battery life? I read that is worse with Oreo

Anonymous

Oreo for -ESA-XX via OTA will likely arrive first before Oreo for -AME-XX. I have both H990DS variants and it's always my - ESA-XX variant (B&O model) that gets updated first, followed by my -AME-XX variant. Still no Oreo OTA for both though.

AnonD-760380

After a very long download of Oreo 8.0, the installation will be done in a few minutes. So far everything works flawlessly, so far I have found no defects. Despite the sometimes massive criticism of LG's update policy, its developers have done a good job.

JayB

I have v20 h990n as well but i don't have the stock video call on my phone dailer, hope anybody that has this can make apk for us to try it out.

JayB

Just got the update of new firmware version so am guessing its oreo Android version, i was a bit shocked but glad it eventually came, it download is extremely slow but hopefully i will be able to download it soon.

DreTT

Oreo on the LG V20 in Trinidad & Tobago... only 1 year late but happy to arrive all the same. Noticed some slight performance increases and the UI is a bit more fluid. Will continue to monitor. ** Please Note ** The OTA Update is pretty sluggish. It took the better part of the day even over a 100Mbit WiFi connection to get the download. Good Luck!

Anonymous

No Oreo for AME-XX version yet

v20 update

Go to the LG website, download LG bridge tool and the LG V20 drivers, the update will take less than 1h, depending on your internet speed. You won't lose any data, make sure when you connect the phone to PC to select "data transfer", same as when you would copy music etc.

AnonD-760380

As with me, after 8 hours only at 39%.

JayB

Just got the update of new firmware version so am guessing its oreo Android version, i was a bit shocked but glad it eventually came, it download is extremely slow but hopefully i will be able to download it soon.

GrazD

It's very slow for me too. I've been running it since 11am and it's not even 50% done 8 hours later. Hopefully overnight it'll complete

Chudo

Stop the download and make the update over the LG bridge from your PC

Chudo

Oreo on h990ds...lol,what changed? Other then that,when you take a picture of anything further then 5 meters is grainy as shit!

Anonymous

Not yet for AME-XX :((

Anonymous

What was your firmware region in nougat?

Filipe

Yep! Oreo OTA download is finally avaiable in my V20 SEA version!

AnonD-760380

At the moment (October 10, 2018) Oreo 8 is being downloaded to my LG H990DS (TWN-variant). Whatever the reasons, despite very fast Wi-Fi connection the download is slow (6% in one hour). Anyway, the software update has become a reality. I bought my V20 in Switzerland and live there.

GrazD

Just got the Oreo update notification on my v20 H990N! It may be a year delayed but at least it's here!

Lazarus

Oreo is here , finally... just installed on my v20 (H990ds) Bosnia and Herzegovina

Chris

I do have something to add. T-Mobile FINALLY released Android oreo on the v20 (H918). You might want to change that update status.

Chudo

My H990DS has no video call option on dialer nor contacts and that makes very difficult for my little boy to see his granddad (who is far away and not able to use any app excerpt the stock dialer to make a video call) .Can somebody who has it on his phone please try to make apk-s of these apps with es file explorer (or any other way) and upload them somewhere (and post a link) so I could try and see if it will work on my phone.Btw I know that there's a bunch of such apps on the playstore but I would like to try the stock verizon,at&t,t-mobile,h990n (and the rest of v20 army) dialers that came with our phones.Thank you

Anonymous

Yes. Extended batteries are good for maximum usage time. Ideal for long travels.

Chudo

I totally agree!And not only in low light!

Rimac

Healing in health I recommend you strongly complement your 6 OEM batteries with models of extended batteries of your preference in order of to have a wide array of mAh. Although they have not the OEM performance.

Anonymous

Inasmuch as I want to replace my V20 due to absence of security updates (more important to me than Android software update to Oreo), I just can't. It's really such an excellent all rounder phone that can still compete well with even the most recent and most expensive flagships of 2018 with the exception of raw processing power and waterproofing. I have six (6) LG V20 OEM spare batteries and two LG V20's (B&O and non-B&O version). I'll be holding on to them until all six batteries die because it seems there will never be any smartphone in the future that will be as feature packed and future proof as the V20. The recently launched V40 is such a letdown. Be warned though that there are counterfeit LG V20 batteries around that look exactly like the real thing, but are not packed in the official manufacturer packaging - that translucent (not transparent) plastic with tamper proof paper seal that once broken, means the battery is no longer new. Fake V20 batteries last half as long as original V20 batteries and worse, they shut down the phone even at 20%-30% battery remaining. Original OEM V20 batteries never shut down at 20%-30% battery power remaining. They only shut down when they reach 1% battery remaining under normal load, or when reaching 5% battery remaining under very heavy load (mobile LTE data on while gaming). Fake/Counterfeit V20 batteries shut down at 20-29% even when purchased brand new. Be warned. If your OEM V20 battery shuts down at 20-29% battery remaining, it's counterfeit. I should know, I have six OEM V20 batteries and four fake ones and the fake ones always shut down at 20-29% while the original OEM ones usually shut down at 1% (light load) or 5% max (very heavy load).

Anonymous

How the V20's low light camera output compares to the low light outputs of the newer, much more expensive smartphones: iPhone XS Max vs. V20 vs. Samsung Note 9: (Check out Sponge Bob's eyes, Lincoln's face in the dollar bill and the upper left portion of the London bus routes map). Oneplus 6 vs. V20 vs. P20 Pro: (Check out Sponge Bob's eyes, Lincoln's face in the dollar bill and the upper left portion of the London bus routes map). Pixel 2XL vs. V20 vs. XZ2 Premium: (Check out Sponge Bob's eyes, Lincoln's face in the dollar bill and the upper left portion of the London bus routes map). The V20 still outperforms them all in overall image quality especially as regards fine detail retention. (Well, at least from my calibrated 28" 4K UHD monitor. The V20 may not be as impressive if these are viewed on smaller mobile screens or on smaller, lower resolution, or uncalibrated computer monitors.)

Chudo

+1

Anonymous

You're not the only one

Anonymous

Almost lost my hope for Oreo as a H990DS user :(((

Chudo

Thank you for the info provided.I'm glad you finally got that oreo.Now it's on us H990xx owners to complete the circle

Rishi Gupta

A great smartphone just got better with oreo!! My review= 1. It feels more snappy but system ram consumption is higher! Free ram is around 1.4GB most of the time! 2. While using quad dac with each click of volume rocker, volume increases by 1 level (there are 75 levels)! 3. Camera performance is same! 4. Network reception is better! 5.Battery life is a bit on the better side! 4.5hrs SOT while using chrome and other apps! 6. Standard features of oreo included like PiP, etc. 8. New charger plug in animation! And many more improvements!! 8. No bugs found!! 7. Sooo don't think and update to oreo!! This review was for LG V20 H918 T-Mobile version!

Trampakoulas

When I got the V20 my hair was dark and I was two years younger. Now my hair is grey and my teeth have fallen by chewing that bloody NOUGAT. By the time that OREO will (and if) arrive on my H990DS I will have to dunk the bloomy "biscuits" to eat them. Shame on you Lethargic Giant. This is my last LG mobile (and I used to own a P880, G3, Stylus 3 and two V20. In two days they will "announce" the V40 on Android 8.1 or something. Bye bye.

Rimac

I suggest you the use of extended batteries in order to solve the problem 1). Many brands and models with different amperage are at your disposal.

the1zia

At Last... last night I got much waited OReo update for T-mobile 918 Model and I got the update not from USA but sitting in Bangladesh!!.. UI have changed a lot and seem quite nice I love my V20 for many reasons but I can Outline what are weak points 1) Battery Life not good at all .. max 3.5 hours screen on time with Heavy usage 2)Disastrous selfie cam 3)Heating issues and at times it lags... but after Oreo seems much better.. Only 12 hours with oreo... I will update you later on

AnonD-760380

why is LG unable to publish a binding date for the update of all versions of H990DS? LG is making it an absolutely unreliable partner of its V20 customers.

Chudo

H990TR... I think this one is for Turkish version and that one even isn't dual sim (at least what I found about it).I guess they just put it there to calm people down untill they come up with the real update (if they ever do)

Chudo

yes! finally!

н&#107

oreo for DS model

Anonymous

Android update system is just unfair. 2 years of android update is rubbish. 3 years at least. Apple iPhone is so much better at updates and security.

Anonymous

Download Blue light filter app, install it with settings mentioned here, and it will be gone forever as long as the app is used.

anonymous

my v20 has image retention

Anonymous

Check out auto focus response by tapping on the screen to see if it's functioning. If not, you may have a defective camera or have set the focus to manual focus. If neither of the two, you may have damaged/dirtied/cracked lens that prevents proper focusing.

Dom

I've never been able to capture a clear photo...all rear camera pictures are fuzzy,front camera turns out blurry. Also recording is fuzzy as well.. This is a serious deal breaker. LG has upgrade their camera. Will stick with Samsung from here on

Anonymous

You are right no more LG phone. I never use iphone but when i see my friend using iphone6s(2015) his phone still got ios 12 update. The performance much better than mine and I was feel..... Yeah next phone would be iphone.

Chudo

October 2020,obviously

Anonymous

The Verizon version received Oreo a couple of days ago. I would definitely upgrade. The UI looks more polished, extra features and they got rid of those orange bars when in battery saving mode.

Anonymous

A new Lg statement saying that Oreo upgrade for H990ds was scheduled at the end of October

Kingslayer

My V20 ended up being the better LG phone as while it has issues, it doesn't have the 1% drain every 2 minutes problem that my G5 has given me. The V20 still isn't perfect by any means. It's the laggiest among my Top 4. It did have image retention which hasn't come back in months. What I'm truly disappointed is this started on Nougat and I still haven't gotten Oreo. Imagine for Pie which I already have on my Essential? I'm not buying another LG phone ever again. I'll stick to the Google Pixels from now even though Android File Transfer on macOS can't recognize it but my Essential can. If worse comes to worst, I may end up going back to iPhone. Haven't use one as a daily driver in 7.5 years. Apple at least are more RELIABLE than LG.

Anonymous

Not many people are aware that batteries have limited number of charging cycles. The more frequent the battery gets to low discharge levels at the end of the day (15% or less), the more damaging it is to the battery (accelerated wear and tear). A good battery will not cause sudden shutdown even when you only have 3% left. Once a battery experiences sudden shutdowns at 5% left, then the downward death cycle of the battery has started. It will get worse with continued use at deep discharge levels until such time that it may even experience sudden shutdown at as higher battery levels (10% or higher). When it does that just purchase a new OEM battery, a sealed/genuine one and it should perform like it was new. That's the good thing about removable batteries. If it were sealed battery, you will most likely have to dispose of your phone as manufacturers tend not to make replacement batteries of older model phones easily available at low prices.

Anonymous

Just buy a new, genuine, OEM battery and do a factory reset snd I assure you, your V20 phone will outlast any Samsung phone that you are yet planning to buy.

Anonymous

Be warned there are lots of fake LG V20 batteries purporting to be original/OEM. They cost less but don't have the reliability of the genuine batteries. Be sure to buy only original LG V20 OEM batteries because the non-OEM batteries tend to discharge fast or display 'invalid battery' message. Original OEM V20 batteries come in translucent plastic with scored paper seal just like the one that came inside the retail box with your V20. Here's how the original packaging of an OEM V20 battery looks: As for the screen retention, just download bluelight filter app and install it to avoid screen retention. Just do a search here using the search box.

Rimac

I'm agree with the utility of the second screen, mainly waiting phone calls while working. I recommend you the PERFINE extended battery of 6.400 mAh. The 9.300 mAh MUGEN POWER extended battery is a good option with NFC., however with a weak point : has only back cover without supplementary case.

Vic

Being using it for six months now. Purchased it used. Working flawlessly. Love the speed and sound. Beautiful interface now with the Oreo 8.0 update. Big enough, satisfying service and excellent gaming performance. Battery juice could suffer endurance reduction as a long time passes by, but you have the huge advantage of purchasing a new battery and replace it yourself since it is a user removable one. Excellent camera performance as well. Second screen customizable shortcuts make your life easier with it. Hope the user replaceable battery high end phones come back with the same configuration as this legendary champion.

Jerome

I've had my V20 for 2 years now. I'm with Verizon. About 3 months ago, I start getting burn in on my screen. It's noticeable, but not debilitating. My phone was updated to Oreo 8.0 on 9/15/18, and it's working pretty nicely. The batter life is shot at this point, but after two years, that's to be expected from a cell phone battery. The only part of it that's really annoying is that the battery life indicator on the phone is deceptive. I plan on buying a new battery and keeping this phone for as long as possible, as I very much enjoy the second screen.

KATIE

Absolute worst phone! Do not get it!! It was a good phone for about the first 5 months or so, and then it started going downhill. I cannot believe the price for this phone is 800.00, but after a year and a half its worth about 300.00, and the unfortunate thing is, I still have about 4 months left with this piece of crap. It now dies at 30% battery life, the texting is horrible, it wont auto correct, and when it does auto correct, its no where near what I needed. Once my contract is up with this phone, I will switch to Samsung, and stay with Samsung indefinitely.

Chudo

You can complain however you want.they don't really care.Just a small number of their devices didn't received the update so thay can ignore it all.The only thing that might hurt them is to convince everybody you know that LG doesen't care much about their customers,once they get their money you are just a dirt to them,and that can happen to any of us/them with first new update!In about 5 years (my guess h990ds is going to last with me) my new phone will be from Apple,considering the fact android is getting more and more locked,in that time span,there will be no more difference between android and apple OS,at least my privacy is more safer with apple...

Fred

It was error in buying lg v20 some two years ago due to zero updating up to now. Now i'm enjoying other midrange phones from huawei and samsung.

Rimac

Use an extended battery and your problem solved. Notice that with many supplied covers doesn't work the NFC.

veron

I am one of those who like to get a constant software update, which brings enhancement and solve issues. Security patch alone is not enough, Ironically, we are getting none.

Kingslayer

My G5 and V20 have noticeable battery degradation. I honestly stopped caring since I'm doing the 75/45% battery rule with them both. I figure 30% per day should give me about 1-2 hrs SOT from each one. Both LG are still great phones other than the faster battery drain especially when streaming videos. I could never get rid of either one because I need the IR blaster and that wide-angle is really practical.

kisna dr

This was my 3rd device after G2,G4. But enough is enough. It's too lazy from their side to ignore existing customers. Keep releasing new phones and screw the loyal customers. Lg is going to be history. Btw where can I reregister my complain to lg about this ?

AnonD-760380

Also, I'm not waiting for an Oreo update, but like Chudo for a long overdue security update. Personally, I will never buy a LG device again.

Chudo

I totally agree to the letter!And in 5 years (max) LG is going to be just a history in mobile phone industry because they offer nothing that stands out plus poor (if any) and manipulative aftersale support.I don't even really care much anymore if we get that oreo update,but the lack of security updates is just unforgivable.Plus they are making fools of their customers.!NO MORE LG! 👎

Rimac

Personally, I do not give a damn about his guidelines emanating from the 'slip' of manufacturing the V20. Healing in health, I bought two in his day. I am an old man and I hope to have until I die.

Anonymous

we don't mind further delay only if lg would skip oreo 8.0 to 8.1. Otherwise, it's considered as negligence and disregard to its customers.

Anonymous

Since the V40 is going to be released in October 2018 yet, I don't expect the V20 to be updated to Oreo before that (if ever it gets updated). It's LG's strategy to coax/force V20 owners to give up waiting for Oreo in their V20's and buy instead the new V40 which has Oreo installed. LG probably thinks more V20 owners will upgrade to the V40 if the V20 Oreo update is delayed longer - longer than the V40's product launching date. LG couldn't be more wrong because V20 owners don't want to upgrade to another LG phone especially with all subsequent LG flagship phones no longer having removable batteries, no longer having the IR blaster, and no longer having dedicated sd card slot. All newer LG flagship phones have made the second SIM slot hybrid where before in the V20, it's two separate sim slots and an additional dedicated micro sd card slot (3 slots in all). Also, LG has elongated the screen from 16:9 to 18:9 which many V20 owners don't like, and LG has removed the second screen, and shifted to short lived, permanently screen burning amoled.

Veron

LOL

AnonD-760380

Do you know more about the new shift? Somewhere I heard from October - maybe 2020?

Veron

Sadly, the update for H990ds is not gonna happen in September.

Anonymous

The v20 release date changed from April, May, June, July , August. and we are almost in mid September, and yet some models haven't tasted the oreo, lg, all you care about selling more devices with 0 services

Satish

We are in September, an yet no sign of oreo for H990ds, is that was another lie from Lg, If that's true, no wonder, lg always treat its customers this way.

Anonymous

'Boring' is actually a very mild adjective to describe iOS. 'Overly/unreasonably restrictive' and 'very limiting' is how I would describe it compared to android. It has a convoluted way of making things as simple as media/file transfers to and from PC's and other phones and wireless screen sharing to tv's a lot more complicated than it has to be. It has a habit of monetizing everything and for that reason, uses proprietary software, hardware, connectors/accessories to lock you up to its archaic system of excessive control and limited freedom.

Chudo

Don't worry bro.It will get that oreo.From H990N is just a step away so I personaly expect it in next two weeks

AnonD-760380

😉 I can absolutely agree with them. Although I do not approve LG's bad behavior, the LG V20 H990DS is a very good phone. However - if it does not receive an update, I will sell it and never buy another LG device.

Chudo

Well,you know what they say...smartphone is only as smart as the person who is using it...

Anonymous

what version is your v20

Alright

I'm in Ghana I have received update for Oreo

AnonD-760380

I had no problems with the V20 H990DS and I really enjoyed it. But now I have lost patience with LG and already ordered the Huawei P20. I can sell the V20 in Switzerland very well and for a reasonable price. Too bad, LG will hurt itself the most with the bad service.

Kingslayer

The LG V20 used to give me a little more problems than my G5. Now the tables have turned. The G5 is giving me sudden battery drain (1% every 2 minutes) and image retention while my V20 doesn't give me any of those problems. The image retention was worse on the V20 before. Like I said before, I'll probably keep both for IR blaster but it's disappointing how badly LG phones ages. The V20 isn't perfect either. I never got Oreo. It's probably a little more laggier than the G5. It can overheat fast when I use it for tethering. Removable batteries are overrated after two years when you can only find Chinese third-party replacements and alot of the OEM ones are old and degraded even inside their packaging. I'm getting forced to use iPhone again thanks to the superior aftermarket support. The rest are trash after warranty. Got to live using boring iOS though.

AnonD-760380

I think this phone is really good, but I find the update policy and the aftersales service of LG miserable.

Jeanne

I already sold my v20 lol

RaSh

I feel lg is a ****ing lier just makes fool of their consumers by providing false dates of updates will never ever by a LG device again. Hope so LG should soon get lost of the smartphone market as soon as possible and they will with such an attitude towards their consumers.

HyM

The worst phone that I have got. It's not smart, just a bad phone.

RaSh

No update till now for me I called LG customer care again they said updates are released and it will be released in batches according to IMEI or Serial number so stay tuned it will be available anytime soon till last of September don't know if they lying. Has anyone from India received the Oreo on Lg V20 please report here if anyone has.

Chudo

Hey Rash.Can you already confirm if LG is doing what they are good at,or the oreo is being downloaded on your phone right now?

AnonD-760380

Updates have already been distributed in countries other than Korea; so your statement is not korrect.

Edward

Update is only for Korea why still hoping for global update?

Chudo

Fingers crossed :)

RaSh

Actually the news about oreo getting released on 7th of September for V20 H990DS in India was given by LG customer service and I had confirmed it more than 2 times by calling them. Don't know if it's true or they are just fooling there consumer which is what LG is good at doing.... Anyways lets see

AnonD-760380

Chudo. Thank you for your statement. I am glad that this really good phone receives an update.

Chudo

With one remark...oreo is not listed yet on LG's official open source code distribution site,so I HIGHLY doubt that ANY (even in India) device will get oreo on September the 7th

Chudo

H990DS is global device,not carrier or region dependant.So if the update is released in one region,logically,it will be released worldwide and be OTA available directly from LG.AS per-se,the oreo update for LG v20 H990DS is getting update at 7th september around the world

AnonD-760380

In India yes - but what is with the Rest of the World?

AnonD-760380

And what about the H990DS devices worldwide - e.g. in Europe?

AnonD-760380

And what about the H990DS devices worldwide - e.g. in Europe?

RaSh

LG v20 H990Ds in INDIA will start receiving update from 7th of September the update will be released in batches till first week of October.

Anonymous

No OTA update yet for Oreo for my H990DS here in the Philippines

Chudo

Which variant?

Mark

For dual sim version (H990DS) also?

raj

  Greetings from LG Electronics.!!  We would like to inform you that Oreo update will come in 7th September (india)

Edward

Update is only for Korea

Rishi Gupta

When oreo for T-Mobile variant will be out?? Anyone has idea??

Jeanne

Still no sign oreo here in australia

Chudo

Obviously oreo for H990N is out so try to check for it on PC app or via OTA

Tanvir

Any update on oreo update for H990N (Hong Kong Model)

Anonymous

When will we get oreo for the H990ds in the Middle East?

GrazD

I heard sometime in September. I'm in UK and haven't seen it yet...

Chudo

H990DS is global and not regional dependant.So the shedule will be the same for every region,not just US.Given that oreo for H990N came out last week,my guess is that DS is going to get it in a next few weeks

Sahi

Do anybody know Oreo update scheduling time for H990ds in US?

LilDevilQc

damn, thats weird, my h915 didnt get any probs when uptading to oreo, id suggest factory reset (check see if it works) then redo the oreo update, it might help.

Anonymous

Not sure if this is applicable to those who have upgraded to Oreo as the V20's native camera app may have been updated significantly after Oreo. Anyway, just try it if the camera menu system is still the same: First, be sure the 'camera' permission of the LG V20's default camera app is allowed. Go to Settings - Apps - Camera - Permissions. Camera, microphone and storage permissions should be 'enabled/on'. If all three are enabled/on, open next (launch) the LG V20 camera app. Tap 'AUTO' icon (box icon with letter 'A'). Tap 'MODE' then tap 'Multi-view'. Tap the rectangular icon below the 'flash' (lightning) icon. From the 4 choices, choose the first icon to the left (rectangle with 4 windows). You should see 4 live views: top left - wide selfie, top right - normal selfie, bottom left - rear camera ultrawide, bottom right - rear camera wide. If you see all four live view images, there is no problem with camera hardware. If any of the views are missing, you may have a hardware problem.

Albright

My LG-H910 at&t , I updated it on 29|08|18, After installation of the Oreo update, my front camera stop working, If I opened the camera, I can take a shot for back cam, but when I clicked for selfie front cam, it will rather take me back to back cam, with the face detect for front showing at back, and It'll show selfie, but show at back camera.and be taking pictures simultaneously as if I'm using front lens. I have tried resetting the phone, still it continues to happen, I NEED HELP I download about two camera app, that has a good rating from play store, still no avail.

Rimac

Reading your post I was shocked by the lag in your unit. Follow the Annonymou's advice. He's a true pundit.

Anonymous

It's unfortunate you have lag/fluidity problems with your V20. I've got two and none of them ever lagged. For the lags, try out all these simple solutions and they will put to shame your Pixel phone's speed and fluidity prowess after you successfully implement them to your V20. These setting tweaks work wonders in making the user interface more fluid than pixels and iphones even in my snapdragon 435 and 625 Xiaomi phones. I've rewritten it for the V20: 1: Go to settings -> general -> apps -> configure apps (three dots at the upper right) -> special access. Choose: Ignore optimizations - turn ON for All apps (default is off) From the same 'special access' menu, Choose next: Draw over other apps - turn OFF for ALL apps. (except messaging) 2. Enable developer options if not enabled already. First, turn ON 'force gpu rendering' Then set window animation scale, transition animation scale and animator duration scale to 0.5 for all three. Then restart phone. 3. Download Nova Launcher Go to nova settings -> look and feel Set both 'scroll speed' and 'animation speed' to 'fast'. 4. If internal storage is 2/3 to near full, transfer media files to sd card. Check sd card is not defective. That's it. Let me know how all these adjustments go on your V20 if they don't help at all, try hard reset after installing the latest OTA update and redo all of the above. If still not fluid, then your V20 is likely defective, better have it replaced.

sohi.farhad

yes. after two years and only in Korea . then in USA . and nobody knows about other countries ....

Anonymous

Wth are you talking about? I see people getting their OREOS for their v20.

Rimac

The best investment to that purpose and was mine as prioritary since sixteen months ago.

Anonymous

i bought a new V20 to use it as a music player. I'm glad that i don't have to use it as my main device. Compared to any of the Pixels, this phone is painfully laggy, would break it into a wall. But as a music player it does a decent job, best price/quality ratio for that matter for sure.

Kingslayer

Both my LG G5 and LG V20 still work great. Wonderful devices with the sFilter app eliminating the ghosting for good. Haven't seen any in nearly a month. Too bad my Essential Phone arrived and the honeymoon phase is in full swing. Completely overshadowed both my LG phones and iPhone SE. Reason being is Android Pie runs so well on it. Once you try Pie, you never could go back to older software. And it's probably better off sticking to the Pixel line forever because other brands will be lucky if they get two major updates. Matias Duarte finally put webOS officially on Android with his Card UI. Both my LG phones will probably lasts longer than the Essential though thanks to removable battery, microSD slot (lessen the wear on the emmc), and just easier to open up and fix. Having IR blaster is a nice bonus.

Anonymous

No native video call app for H990DS. I use Google duo for video calls.

Anonymous

H990DS AME firmware does not have.

Chudo

I forgot to ask anybody on H990N or DS...do you have a video call option on the native dialer?oreo or nougat?

Rimac

I'm agree with your complains but despite having not update the V20 isn't a f . . . Flagship.

sohi.farhad

Dear LG, Where is the f... android update? what the f... are you doing? why you never published OS f... update for this f... flagship? I am really angry. Dear Lg, go to hell

Anonymous

need root for substram... how to root oreo?

Anonymous

att h910 model. just got oreo. battery drainage just as bad. maybe gps quicker lock bluetooth still needs manually connect for paired device what's improvement? i don't see any just a name change

LilDevilQc

Had the phone for a year and a half and love it, one of the last phones that has removable battery, ir blaster which i use everyday, and a nice 5.7 2k resolution screen. Only downside up to date is my bluetooth that disconnects for no reason ( factory reset about a year after my purchase helped it) and a pretty shitty battery (fyi disable ok google will help it a lot) but like i said, its a removable battery, so either buy 3 or go overkill like i did and buy a ZeroLemon 10000 m/AH battery 60 buck = shipping etc and i got a phone that last 2-3 days minimum. Personally I fell in love with its second screen which i use daily. Enjoy this beauty of a phone :p P.S my H-915 canadian model got oreo last month, I must admit that they've been cheap with updates, passed 1 year w/o any update and droped oreo out of nowhere

Anonymous

H990N is dual SIM version for Hongkong market. It has basically the same hardware as the global H990DS dual SIM version. Theoretically, it should be compatible with H990DS models except that some LTE bands may be disabled and that the availability of supported languages may be limited compared to the global H990DS version.

X

It works for LG-H990ds??

Rimac

I own two V20's. The first one since sixteen months ago and always working many hours daily with it. No bootloop issue. No image retention. Without hesitation you can buy quietly the V20.

Chudo

Yay! Oreo for H990N on Finally some movement here.H990DS oreo around the corner!

Shahryar

Well hello everyone so I need some help from you guys so over the past 2 year I've used LG g3 and it worked quite well had some battery issues but got it replaced and after months of using it with the LG V10 and gave the g3 to my father so after 7 months of rocking with the V10 it got bootlooped 😭 yeah sucks right so the thing is somehow I got rid of the V10 sold it to someone who needed it for parts and stuff and bought a Moto z Force yeah it's a awesome phone but the lack of a headphone jack , no second screen , ir blaster removable battery is something that I really miss so the help I need is that if you guys could help me figure out should I go for the v20 or not but when I remember my days from V10 I really don't wanna do through that bootloop again so yeah should I go for the v20 or just stick with my z force any response will me appreciated

Anonymous

It was Apple who started this battery mess. Samsung even mocked them on their wallhugger ad for the Galaxy s5. And then Sammy released the Galaxy s6 with sealed battery and continued to do so despite the Note 7 disaster.

Yst1964

LG has shunned any updates for the international versions. Avoid any LG phone unless you are Korean. Yucks.

RaSh

Can we use substratum theme on LG v20 oreo? Anyone has tried?

Kingslayer

I use sFilter PRO and the image retention never returned for BOTH my LG G5 and V20. I can now use that gray wallpaper that matches nicely with my silver G5. Both 2016 LG flagships which were the last flagships to offer removable battery are two of my favorite smartphones of all-time. Even if I never use them again as my main phones, I can use both as my TV remote for many more years... I'm planning to use the Essential Phone as my daily driver for the next two years so I can prolong the life of my G5 and V20. Lesser usage, lesser battery charges can help prolong phones to live longer. That's why it's great to rotate between multiple phones and have a throwaway like the Moto E4. Lessen the mileage for each of them.

Chudo

I sometimes have trouble with slow loading of .dng pictures on google photos,not sure about the gallery app though.

V20 user

I'm using gallery upon opening my photos taken. Im using sandisk memory card.

Anonymous

Loss of photos/files is 100% guaranteed if you have a fake micro sd card. There are lots of fake 32GB, 64GB, 128 GB, 256GB and even 512GB micro sd cards that cost very much cheaper than genuine micro sd cards. Fake cards offer high storage for a very low cost compared to genuine micro sd cards.

Jeanne

Where is smart stay setting on this phone?

Chudo

Using gallery or google photos app?

V20 user

Got an issue from the gallery some photos taken been corrupted or destroyed don"t know if the memory card or this phone malfunctioning? Did anyone of you guyz experience this any help pls..

RaSh

Yes Please anyone full review of oreo on LG V20

Rishi Gupta

Please someone post his/her complete review of oreo update on lg v20!! It will surely help others too!!!

Chudo

Dude.what kind of "tasks" are you running to get it so hot?Poking fire?And what phone doesen't get hot when playing games?Btw even when it gets a bit hot,it still runs well,no speed throttling during playing games.I sometimes even play two heavy graphics and physics demanding games in splitscreen without any problems.So,maybe you should take your "hot" comments somwhere else...

Andrew

This phone is superb. Nothing to complain much. Camera isbetter than iphone and samsung. When I transferred the pictures into my pc colors are natural. I hate saturated photo. And the sound this one is almost perfect sound quality is crisp. The wide angle really beat others.

GrazD

It gets quite hot after gaming or running tasks, and LG's update policy is the worst I have ever known. Apart from that, it's a good handset.

Anonymous

For the screen ghosting, try Blue Light Filter app' by 'Leap Fitness Group' and use the following settings: Night Mode: toggle 'ON', Color temperature: 4500K (Tap 'sun and clouds' icon and tap 'OK' when prompted it is not good for sleeping), Intensity: 0%, Screen dim: 3%, Set auto timer: toggle 'OFF' and Notification bar: toggle 'OFF'. It works the same as sFilter app and much simpler to set up and use too with no suspicious activity.

Chudo

For me it runs fluently for a year and a half.My only complaint is the screen ghosting (in my case heavily,and looks like it's a lottery because some people have it and some don't) and a lack of updates (again lottery because some people get it and some don't) That's my honest opinion.

Edward

Sad only few lg v20 will get Oreo. Mine never receive an update since I bought it

TheKilroy

So far I've heard nothing. Can anyone please tell me: how is optimization? How well does it run games, how are animations, how quickly does it open apps? Looking at the spects, it should do all these things well, but optimization is more important as we all know.

Chudo

Or if you have the original remote,you can use the LG implemented "quickremote" learning feature and make your own custom remote

Chudo

Yes,it is mbuynow with a ruberry back cover...was the last one in stock I found last year.The cover feels like it doesent protect the phone very good and the battery is a bit flimsy in the phone so I had to put some sticky tape underneath it so it wouldn't dislodge from the contacts.BUT the battery holds for 3 days of moderate use and is filled to a 100% in 4 hrs in that bck5200 cradle

Anonymous

No. But every phone can be made up to appear like it had a bootloop issue even when there is none. Example: Try searching 'bootloop Samsung Note' and 'bootloop iPhone' and you'll find plenty of bootloop reports in YouTube and Google search as if it were a frequent, massive occurrence in the phone when it is merely some very isolated case (or user fault due to rooting/custom ROM's installation, etc.).

Abrar

Is there any boot loop issue in this LG phone??

Aeldor

Chudo, thank you. I didn't know the 12 000mah batteries charge this fast. If it is the mbuynow, that is. It says it doesn't support fast charging and if it is rgisone, it is really impressive. I have ordered the bck 5200

RaSh

It is scheduled to release in India after 7th September. Let's hope it does.

BONY

When the Oreo 8.0 update come for LG V20(H990DS) in India ??

Hani

When it comes to after-sale-service, lg is the WORST ever manufacturer, very slow software updates and the scarcity of regular security updates. Due to its bad reputation, I guess lg will be soon out of the market.

Baba

Yeah...LG is all like "look LG g7 can do this,can do that,look at the whistles,look at the bells" What you are not doing is "look,LG V20 is getting oreo after 2 years of negligence,and only korean and the carrier's versions are getting it.We don't care about global,unlocked versions as they bring us no money anymore and they will get the update if we have mercy on them".My H990DS global is on November security update and as I see it,it takes least work on its update as you don't have to implement all the carriers bloatware and whatnot and you don't have to test it for particular networks,and you could just release the oreo with your own flavor added but you FAIL and refuse to do it.It leaves a bitter taste in my mouth and a feeling you treat the people who bought this otherwise unique device like a DIRT you picked up somwhere along the way on your golden shoes.Therefore,from now on I will treat LG products same way you treat me...and advise everybody I can,to do the same because you guys DO NOT deserve the atention you get!

RaSh

Hope so LG is watching how badly they are been criticised for not paying attention on their devices by providing regular updates and most of the people are promising to never BUY a LG device again. Still there is no change they do what they like not what their consumers like. If they maintained same attitude for their devices and consumers soon LG will be a forgotten brand in Smartphone Industry.

Rimac

SURE Universal Remote (SURE Universal Ltd.) is a suitable App to your needs. I use it pleasantly since long time ago in my devices by their complete capabilities.

Anonymous

I agree, LG is probably the worst of all phones in terms of timeliness and frequency of major Android software updates as well as monthly security updates. Even $120 Xiaomi Redmi 4x phones have better software update support.

Anonymous

Use AnyMote Smart Remote app from playstore. It's the best universal remote app I've used. The paid/premium version is better than the free version because you can have as many remotes as you want, back up/restore them using the cloud and even make custom remotes that may contain remote functions from many different devices but placed in a single remote control interface.

Chudo

The way I see it...LG updates it's unlocked (non-carrier) and international models last.Don't know why because those would be easiest to update because they don't need to implement usual carrier related bloatware...maybe because they get money from carriers so they give more attention to them,but that may be double edged sword for LG.As far as I'm concerned,I will never buy an LG device again,this one was my first and the last one.period.

Afroman

Hey guys any perfect app to turn my fone to universal remote without me selecting a model or name of the tv. Used to do that 6 years back with another lg forgot the name of the app

cefc1905

when update for android 8.0 oreo my lg v20 h918???

Jeanne

Still wait in my h990ds :(

Ayaz ahmed

I realy enjey my v20 mobile

MLAVRA

Thanks for the answers and, yes, I am grateful that I don't have to deal with this! I really enjoy my V20.

Chudo

The native one only turns your screen more yellow-ish and the app has some more options so it leaves your screen white enough but stil removes the ghosting effect.And be gratefull you don't have to deal with it,because for me,it is really ruining my experience with this otherwise one of the greatest devices and I am even thinking of tracking a replacement display just because of that

Anonymous

The apps mentioned (sfilter/blue light filter) enable you to apply a variable intensity color dithering/color filter to the LCD screen with a chosen specific color (color temperature or hue), with variable opacity and at the same time enable you to limit the maximum brightness the LCD screen is capable of to avoid retention. The filtering apps mentioned are normally used like the built in 'comfort view' of the V20, but in the specific issue mentioned here, they are not being used as such. Rather, they arevused to prevent screen retention in some defective LG V20 screens that is why the settings are very conservative (0%-5% filter intensity or opacity to avoid having noticeable color shifts in tge LCD's white balance), and 3-5% screen dimming or reduction of 'brightness of screen'. LCD behaves differently from amoled in that any color dithering applied is averaged over the entire panel thus effectively eliminating screen retention at the proper settings. Reducing overall brightness of a defective screen retaining LCD screen does not correct the retention problem because it is an excessive contrast/brightness issue brought about by poor quality control. You need the apps mentioned to be able to eliminate ghosting/image/screen retention in defective V20 screens. I'm not so lucky to have a V20 with screen retention. My other V20 does not have any ghosting/retention and thus have no need dor sFilter or Blue Light Filter app mentioned here.

MLAVRA

I apologize, the question might be stupid but what is the difference between using different blue light filtering applications and V20's native 'comfort view'? Especially now, with OREO (seems that we'll finally get it) where there are more options with the 'comfort view'? I am (so far) on the lucky side, no screen retention after one year of using V20 so I cannot test it myself.

Chudo

THANK YOU.I think you cleared some dilemas for a lot of people in here (even though some of them wouldn't admit that)

Krugger

The h915 just receive Oreo I think it should update page because apparently all variants will update

Krugger

Screenshot in the link

Anonymous

It's plausible but not all B&O versions are affected. Rimac has two B&O V20's and none of them had screen retention. I have two V20's, one B&O version and another non-B&O version. My non-B&O version had no screen retention/ghosting problems even after hours of use but my B&O version had visible retention in 30minutes if I don't use sFilter app. After examining background data use of sFilter app in my B&O V20, I seem to be in agreement with other users who reported suspicious background activity. I can see it uses more background data than my weather apps, news apps and Facebook messenger, although developer attributes it to ads. It's still weird though because its background data use is 12x higher than its foreground data use and you only see ads when it's in the foreground. I have just replaced sFilter app. with 'Blue Light Filter app' by 'Leap Fitness Group' and use the following settings: Night Mode: toggle 'ON', Color temperature: 4500K (Tap 'sun and clouds' icon and tap 'OK' when prompted it is not good for sleeping), Intensity: 0%, Screen dim: 3%, Set auto timer: toggle 'OFF' and Notification bar: toggle 'OFF'. It works the same as sFilter app and much simpler to set up and use too with no suspicious activity.

Moneer082

Thanks bro i set the settings as u said hope no ghost screen anymore 😊

Chudo

Tracking down all the comments on the web,I came to conclusion that the ghosting affects mostly the B&O branded LG V20,and not the generic ones.Anybody can confirm my theory?I own the B&O one and the ghosting is very annoying.I have it all the time...even the 10 seconds of anything staying on the display leaves a trail on it

Chudo

Just search LG V20 Battery Charging Cradle BCK-5200 It charges my extended 12000mAh extended battery to 100% in 4hrs

Anonymous

After downloading sFilter from Google Playstore, open/launch the app. Set blue Light Filter to On; Filter Opacity to 5% (anywhere from 5-10% would be sufficient); Brightness of screen - 5% (anywhere from 5-10% will be enough); Color (Choose black); Notification bar - On; Sort Notification bar - On; Allow greater opacity - On; Navigation bar - On; Start on boot - On.

Anonymous

SFilter doesn't require any permissions. If you don't trust the app, you can use another blue light filter app from playstore. There are many others available and they do the same thing.

Moneer082

How to use sfilter

Chudo

I own H990ds(global,unlocked) and I am on the november 6th 2017 security update...LG wth???

Chudo

You should read the comments on that app.It has some shady background data usage,app developer defend it with in-app ad related downloads but the data traffic as reported is too high for downloading a few ads.So be aware,especialy about the news seen lately about the security issues and apps being able to do whatever with our phones without even any permissions required...I would rather see some ghost on my screen then submit (for instance )my banking app to the praying eyes of such app!

Rimac

LG has their own battery charger to the V20. My brother has bringht me one. I think he found it at Amazon or Ebay.

NOMI

Yup..

Aeldor

Boys and girls, has anyone been able to find a way to charge a large replacement battery externally? (like zerolemon 10k or perfine 10.5k) I got two perfine10.5k batteries but I'm only able to charge them through the phone. I got a supposedly good external charger with 4.2v, 450 mA output but it seems to take too much time. I could only charge less than 20% for more than 2 hrs with it. The phone's charger does charge the huge battery very quickly but that's still a few hours in which I cannot use the phone because it's charging in the other room. Any ideas how to charge externally?

Jeanne

Thanks for the information

Jeanne

Sprints version?

NOMI

I am on Oreo now, its really good and fresh look, better than Nouget, many people saying in this forum that Oreo makes Battery life much better than previous, but i didn't notic yet better performance by battery, after update i reset my phone to avoid bugs and errors, and i thought resetting device will be make battery life better as other users saying, but after reset i saw many other better performances by V20 except battery life.. :( Anyway other things are really performing well than past, over all Good update but not the best...

Anonymous

Screen ghosting is just a 1 minute download away. Use sFilter app and it will be gone forever. It was mentioned in the previous pages in this forum not too long ago.

Krugger

sFilter work for burn-in Android Oreo

Krugger

After update as recommended is making a reset factory to remove any errors in the update

Bro1929

Just received the Oreo Update from Canada.

phonemaniac

complete disaster i am really dissapointed with that screen ghosting and android 8 only for korean thats not fair for a high end device like that performance is good but as i say this ghosting thing makes this phone shitty and unwanted

Kalindo

Thanks for the solution, it worked great.

Edward

The oreo update is for Korea model only

shoukat2003

May be the option is hidden,like as mine. my system upgrade option was hidden, you should try magnifier glass search in settings. there you search mirrorlink, i am sure your problem will solved.

Kumars

Mirrorlink option is not available in settings. Further LG Mirrordrive app says phone not supported for Mirror link

shoukat2003

mirrorlink option is available under SETTINGs. you have to download "lg mirrordrive" from playstore to use this option.

Kumars

Hi all. I'm using H99DS handset and from India. I am unable to find the Mirrorlink option anywhere whereas I believe other hardware versions has teh option. Is there anyway to enable the same.Or whether the option will come in Android Oreo. Thanks

Fhernando

I updated my LG V20 Sprint model and had the same issue. I find in Playstore an app. Change Apn. It will give you a shortcut to the apn settings directly. Hard to save it but it works. Hope it helps

beak

after an u[date 2 days ago, my apn settings disappeared. there is no plus sign anymore, and the 3 dots are gone. has anyone been able to get it back after the update? my phone was great for a long time before this stupid crap.

lugol

Hello,is there anybody who have an issue with their NFC? I use H990DS model,and my NFC didn’t work properly. I try to check the hardware through Test Your Android app and it said my NFC is ok. Then,i tried to connect it to my Sony bluetooth via NFC but it didn’t work. I tried to connect android beam via NFC with my Samsung S8 but it didn’t work too. Any solution will be helpful

shoukat2003

congrates bro. there is not any problem in vpn setting. i think you are forgetting to save these setting. whenever you write in these setting , dont forget to save from options . it is displayed in three dots at upper right corner .

NOMI

Dear shoukat i am now also on Oreo, have an issue after update, APN settings of my network no more supported with my device, always deselect automatically, i am unable to use mobile data now? Have you any clue about this isue?? Kindly reply everyone who knows the solution, plz help me..

shoukat2003

I am now on ORIO. Still unlocked with here in Pakistan local network. Thanks for everyone who guided me.

Aeldor

Yes, Rimac, thank you. This is exactly what I meant with this analogy - affordable and sensible quality. I don't think I'm going to be changing this phone in the next few years. I am using the 10500 mah perfine battery, the experience is supreme. It lasted me for 2 days of more than normal use and it still had 30% left in the end. I was considering to buy the Ulefone power 5 but I'm so happy I got the LG. I now view manufacturers who don't make batteries removable as evil people.

shoukat2003

See Krugger replies in this forum.

shoukat2003

oh yes you are great. solved my big problem i am now able to see oreo update. yesssssss....

Rimac

In your analogy imagine get the model Mercedes at bargain price. Don't worry about the colour retention, the first one of mine, with fifteen months of very hard work still wait the issue. I recommend you the PERFINE extended battery of 6.400 mAh. Enjoy it !

Anonymous

Under the 'Update Center' there should be two choices: 1. App updates and 2. Software update. Tap 'Software update' then tap 'Check now for update'. If you cannot see 'Software update', your V20 variant may still have it in a different menu path or possibly have it in a hidden/disabled menu. Network providers typically modify V20 firmwares and oftentimes disable/hide some menu options in the V20 which are available in officially unlocked or international /global V20 models. Those that were originally locked in to a network but 'unlocked' later on may retain the same missing options as the locked versions.

Anonymous

H910 supports the following LTE bands: LTE band 1(2100), 2(1900), 3(1800), 4(1700/2100), 5(850), 7(2600), 12(700), 29(700), 30(2300). Be sure your LTE network provider operates on any of those bands. Otherwise, if your LTE network provider operates on one or more LTE bands not mentioned above, you are going to have LTE connectivity problems. (Example: A US model LG V20 [H910] will have LTE connectivity problems when used in other countries' LTE networks due to the US phone model/V20 variant not having the compatible LTE hardware being used by a network in another country (or sometimes even the same country, but another LTE network provider which operates on a different set of LTE network bands). Check here to know your LTE network's band compatibility with what your V20 phone variant offers:

Krugger

In the settings of the phone in the magnifying glass you write update, then you go where it says update firmware

Krugger

On my third day of use Oreo LG V20 Sprint (LS997) and nothing goes wrong, the phone moves much better and smoother than with Nougat. The update has a lot of options, at first I was a bit uncomfortable but then I found everything, LG managed to do his best job in this update the phone work awesome is the best everything improved, it's amazing how well I work Oreo in the V20 It is as done for this model, I love my V20 now work amazing 0 lag.

Krugger

On my third day of use Oreo LG V20 Sprint (LS997) and nothing goes wrong, the phone moves much better and smoother than with Nougat. The update has a lot of options, at first I was a bit uncomfortable but then I found everything, LG managed to do his best job in this update the phone work awesome is the best everything improved, it's amazing how well I work Oreo in the V20 It is as done for this model, I love my V20 now work amazing 0 lag.

Krugger

In the settings of the phone in the magnifying glass you write update, then you go where it says update firmware

shoukat2003

Unfortunately my mobile is not connecting with LG BRIDGE. Btw i have updated it from ls997zv5 to ls997zvd via OTA.(near about 7 updates)

Aeldor

So, ladies and gents (if there are any ladies around at all ;), I finally got this wonder. I can only say this is the Mercedes W124 of all smartphones. With an extended battery of course heh heh. ;) I love it. No color retention yet and no oreo for me yet, I'll wait for an update through the system update. I do miss the Miui skin of my old Xiaomi and its flawless applock but oh well. Everything else is supreme. ..

g6 user

sprint is not in Pakistan but USA you must connect to pc

shoukat2003

Whenever i click on 'update centre' it goes direct into 'apps update'. There is no 'system update' option in my cell.(v20 sprint unlocked in Pakistan , using local network)

Anonymous

Can someone help me, my LG V20 H910PR does not support 4g option. Even though my sim card is lte capable. What should I do?

Edward

Go to common then update centre

Anonymous

I have exactly the same issue. I rang LG US (I live in the UK but LG UK were useless) and they said that it's a camera driver issue that has affected quite a few people. If the phone is bought in the US, you can send it back to LG, they will fix the driver issue, and send it back to you for free with the whole process apparently taking 2 weeks. Unfortunately I can't do that so no front facing camera for me!

Anonymous

There's an effective solution/fix to the ghosting problem of your V20. Not all V20's have it but for those units that are affected, download 'sFilter' app at Google Playstore and install it to your V20 with temporary image/screen retention. The 'sFilter' app settings to avoid screen/image retention were mentioned a few pages back in this forum. Anyway, to repeat, they are as follows: Set blue Light Filter to On; Filter Opacity to 5% (anywhere from 5-10% would be sufficient); Brightness of screen - 5% (anywhere from 5-10% will be enough); Color (Choose black); Notification bar - On; Sort Notification bar - On; Allow greater opacity - On; Navigation bar - On; Start on boot - On. It will effectively stop temporary image/screen retention/ghosting on the main screen from forming even if you remain on a static screen for an hour. Try it, it works wonders.

Anonymous

Have had this phone for about 18 months, super solid device. Only issue is some LCD ghosting, which is annoying but not really a "problem". Never had a need to put a case on this guy, it can take a hit. Oreo update made battery life better and improved performance that was already great, so if you find one of these for a good price, it's a great phone.

Hellmark

Sprint V20 LS997 here, and I've been rocking the Oreo update for a few days now. Huge battery life improvement (my original battery is pretty much shot, and I was getting 2 hours on a charge if I used it, I now get 10+ hours), and performance boost (was getting laggy on Marshmallow).

Hellmark

Sprint V20 LS997 here, and I've been rocking the Oreo update for a few days now. Huge battery life improvement (my original battery is pretty much shot, and I was getting 2 hours on a charge if I used it, I now get 10+ hours), and performance boost (was getting laggy on Marshmallow).

Nomi

No Brother, i am using company unlocked Sprint V20 in Pakistan with my local network sim, and i always got software and security updates here, hopefully Oreo will hit my device as past..

Chudo

Nope,sprint users also got it.But I think you need to be on sprint's network to be able to get it

Nomi

I also have LS997 but i didn't get yet Oreo, i don't know why 😞

dksarkar

I endorse your view. It is strange that premium model is not getting any update since it’s launch in India. I am pretty sure LG lost my trust. I’ll never buy this brand

Anonymous

It's only korea

Anonymous

mine is att model but unlocked, not using att line. i don't have oreo update. does att model needs to use its line to receive update?

Chudo

Does it still have native facebook app integrated in the OS?I just hated that d.i.c.k move....

Moneer082

I updated my phone to oreo and it seems good

Krugger

LG LS997 (sprint) I already got the Oreo update

Tumph

It will surely come, just so you know lg like releasing update first in Korea then letter spread it to other countries....

Chudo

Thank you very much.I just hope it will come to our H990DS too...but looking at the g6 oreo update order,G6DS got oreo last.So maybe end of August...

Tumph

It's very stable AV been using it for the past 32hours no much difference in the battery life,due to the fact u can reduce the apps that runs on the background,it's still kinda better.. camera as gotten some additional filters, performance is very okay now...my fone feels brand new ..am loving it again,plus u now have an button to lock menu and navigation keys...it's dope...

Chudo

So what's the verdict?Any comments?

Chudo

Try here...maybe installing lg fm radio app?

Anonymous

Not sure if this works but do check it out:

Anonymous

Hello Guys I got the lg v20 f800k ; is there a way to enable the FM Radio???

Anonymous

So, it seems Android Oreo for the Korean variant of the V20 (F800) has already rolled out via OTA. For those with the F800 variant, how is Oreo compared to Nougat in terms of battery life, fluidity, speed, apps performance, etc.? Is it better, worse or about the same? What's the Android Oreo version (8.0, 8.1)? Also, what is the security patch level. Did you factory reset your phone and did it break anything? Thanks.

Nadhan

HTC has gone out from India due to its price, service and improper update. likewise, LG will also disappear from the Indian market very soon. because V20 is the first product comes with Android 7. But still, I have NO update news to Android 8 and even no news about this from LG. so my guess is that LG will soon close mobile services in India.

Tumph

Yes it's even very stable ...

Anonymous

I GOT lg v20 F800K AND i got the 1.6gb update... anyone did update???? is it safe??? is it better??

mymora88

I have an Lg V20 and i'm disappoints. I didn't receive any security updates since January 2018 and still is on Android Nougat. Even my brother's Redmi Note 4x receive security updates from 01 July 2018 and received Android 7.0 from Android 6.0. LG trully disappoints.

Tumph

Finally Oreo as arrived on my LG v20 F800s

Anonymous

LG V20's Android 8.0 Oreo update starts rolling out

Anonymous

Everybody's on Jan 18, forget any new update, till V40 is launched in 2019! V30 got nxt update with Think Q, because V35 with faster processing 845 launched in same body & design! LG can't hookwing customers to Save!

metall

to be honest i don't know. (B&Q?) and its tesco network so it's not the best. i think ill switch to other and I will see what's going on. thank You for answers

metall

thank You, but I did it didn't work for me :/

Anonymous

Haven't received any updates. What's the Android security patch level of the latest update? My two V20's are still on January 2018 security patch.

burgfb

Still best camera and picture quality right now.

Anonymous

I think not all B&O models are affected. Good thing is it can easily be corrected. No need to send phone for repair. There is a very easy and very effective solution.

Rimac

Thanks for the explanation. I prefer believing that the issue is produced in the quality control. If is that, I'm sorry to you. I own two B&O for special video purposes and according to your detailed information can be affected, although isn't compulsory.

Anonymous

Did any one receive security patch update this month?

Rimac

Thanks for the explanation. I prefer believing that the issue is produced in the quality control. If is that, I'm sorry to you. I own two B&O for special video purposes and according to your detailed information can be affected, although isn't compulsory.

Anonymous

I really don't know why my B&O version has significant screen retention (although temporary), after 30 minutes of static screen, but my non-B&O version does not have any significant retention even after hours of use, and if any is retained (frequently none other than the network and battery icons), it's gone after a few minutes of off screen. I suspect miscalibration of my B&O V20's LCD in the blackpoint/whitepoint OR some factory variability in the backlighting or the LCD panel itself (most likely, off-specs, a QUALITY CONTROL ISSUE). Fortunately though, after using 'sFilter' on my B&O V20, the image retention is gone for good, at least in the main screen which is what matters most. The 'sFilter' app does not correct for the second screen retention while the main screen has the corrected settings without any screen/image retention. Those suffering from image/screen retention should start using the app since uncorrected blooming in LCD screens can result to PERMANENT DAMAGE if the screen is not turned off enough daily (at least nightly/overnight) for the temporary image/screen retention to heal/disappear.

Rimac

For what reason, according your opinion, the B&O version was manufactured in order to produce more image retention ?

Anonymous

After comparing my two V20's (B&O and non-B&O version) extensively under static screen conditions to produce screen retention, I can confirm that the amount of image retention in my B&O V20 is significantly much higher to the point it can be objectionable or an eyesore to many sensitive individuals. On the contrary, my non-B&O V20 screen retention is practically invisible, one, which I don't notice at all unless I do LCD testing with pure gray colors. However, as mentioned, the image retention is temporary. It goes away when the phone has been off for a while. Recently, however, I did research and found out the retention of some V20 units (not all) are due to miscalibrated black points and white points. What I did to my B&O V20 with significant screen retention was that I corrected the miscalibration by downloading a screen filter app to correct the likely factory miscalibration. The app, called 'sFilter - Blue light filter' by Siso Mobile, can be downloaded free at Google Playstore. My 'sFilter' app settings to avoid screen retention in my B&O V20 are as follows: Blue Light Filter - On; Filter Opacity - 5%; Brightness of screen - 5%; Color (Choose black); Notification bar - On; Sort Notification bar - On; Allow greater opacity - On; Navigation bar - On; Start on boot - On. Having used the app since yesterday, I can no longer see any screen retention in my B&O V20. Amazing! Those with screen retention should try it using the baseline settings I've mentioned above. One may adjust the levels according to what works best for their specific units. Lastly, please note the app doesn't remove an already existing temporary screen retention. After installing the app and configuring the settings, enable the app then leave the screen off overnight when you sleep. When you wake up, the old retained images will be gone and with the sFilter app running in the background, you will no longer get any screen retention whatsoever. You can verify using the V20's built-in LCD test. You should see no more retained images except negligible retention for the second screen which the app doesn't correct (not programmed for phones with second screen).

Anonymous

Try this: settings - apps - camera - storage. Tap 'clear data' and then choose 'OK' when asked if you want to 'Delete app data'. This will solve any camera software problems if any. If camera still crashes, backup all data in your phone to a computer and do a factory reset. If after factory reset, problem remains, you have hardware problem. Send your phone to service center.

Anonymous

when i tap mode/multiview it crashed / camera error.

Anonymous

You can also go to: settings - apps - camera - storage. Tap 'clear data' and then choose 'OK' when asked if you want to 'Delete app data'. This will solve any camera software problems if any.

Anonymous

First, be sure the 'camera' permission of the LG V20's default camera app is allowed. Go to Settings - Apps - Camera - Permissions. Camera, microphone and storage permissions should be 'enabled/on'. If all three are enabled/on, open next (launch) the LG V20 camera app. Tap 'AUTO' icon (box icon with letter 'A'). Tap 'MODE' then tap 'Multi-view'. Tap the rectangular icon below the 'flash' (lightning) icon. From the 4 choices, choose the first icon to the left (rectangle with 4 windows). You should see 4 live views: top left - wide selfie, top right - normal selfie, bottom left - rear camera ultrawide, bottom right - rear camera wide. If you see all four live view images, there is no problem with camera hardware. If any of the views are missing, you may have a hardware problem.

Anonymous

rear camera wide view crashing. standard view no issue front camera showing rear view !!! but wide view no issue but showing rear view. software or hardware?

KiraV

Thanks for the reply. If we're talking about levels not seen in everyday use then it makes sense I wouldn't have ever noticed. I appreciate the info.

Anonymous

All my previous phones/tablets with ips LCD screens have it to varying degrees: Key word: VARYING. Some with more, some with less, but ALL HAVE IT. I had a Huawei, several Xiaomis, Several Lenovos, Asus, Samsung and two LG V20's. It's noticeable on my B&O V20 but not at all on my non B&O V20. It's also not noticeable under ordinary circumstances in my all the other phone/tablet brands I mentioned above but, yes, it's there in ALL OF THEM. The way to see it is to use LCD testing where plain colored grays of varying luminance are displayed on-screen. Again, it's temporary. If you are OC about temporary screen retention, and get angry at the sight of one even if it is barely visible and only for a short time (and has no permanent effect on the screen or its longevity, then my advice is to NOT to buy the V20. Get another smartphone with IPS LCD, preferably those with full HD only. They have the least visible temporary screen retention.

KiraV

My V10 got some minor taskbar and notification ghosting after 6 months or so, but what I've seen on the V20 is much stronger and started sooner (~2 months and worsening.) Random parts of pages sometimes ghost onto dark backgrounds, and there are almost always imprints of taskbar icons as well on the top as well as bright bars (sometimes solid, sometimes fuzzy like a much wider version of light bleed if that makes sense) on the sides if the app/background in use is dark but not outright black. The ghosting doesn't show on true black. If you use primarily light-colored apps and backgrounds it might not be much of an issue, but if you prefer dark modes it'll get annoying pretty fast once it starts occurring. It's really a shame. The V10 was the best-feeling phone I ever had, and the V20 isn't too far behind. But the poor battery life and ghosting are a deal-breaker in my opinion.

KiraV

Aside from these LGs, I have literally never seen a modern LCD (let's say from the last 15 years) with noticeable image retention. Can you name some other products where this is a frequent issue? I'm genuinely curious, I'd like to feel better about LG's quality control.

keira

Exactly. I not comfortable if I see something on my phone that it shouldn't be there. My g4 started image retention after 6 months, I only use it for music player. I bought LG v10 and on 2nd day after 1 hour facebook & messenger consumption i noticed keyboard ghosting. my 8 month s8 doesnt show anything.

keira

I'm planning to get this over g6 as my music player. but I don't want headaches with image retention like when I had G4.

Anonymous

There is no LCD display without temporary screen retention. All have it to varying degrees. This is what I said. Now, if the temporary screen retention becomes a permanent BURN IN, that is, even if you have the phone turned off when you sleep at night and still see the ghost/retained images when you turn on the phone in the morning, then that is NOT NORMAL in an LCD display. It may be 'normal' wear and tear in an amoled/oled/p-oled display.

KiraV

I've seen a lot of devices with LCDs, including plenty of phones from a variety of manufacturers, and none have had retention issues like the V10 and V20. I don't know what you're buying that makes you think this kind of issue is normal for an LCD.

KiraV

Yes. It started after a couple of months on mine (got it at the beginning of March) and seems to be getting worse.

KiraV

Nice build quality but the battery life and image retention are bad.

Anonymous

Actually, even the iphone 7/7+, 8/8+, and iPhone X can't beat the LG V20 in low light. The very slow shutter and low ISO used by the iPhones cause motion blur and poor focus. Here, see for yourself (pay particular attention to Sponge Bob, the dollar bill and the donkey) :

AnonD-748982

2017 & 2018 flagships*

AnonD-748982

I surprise by LG V20 photo quality. Even 2017 and 2018 still no match except for ip7,ip8 and X!. Pixel htc even for G7 and V30 still not good enough for beating v20 photo quality.

Anonymous

Temporary screen retention, yes. All LCD panels do, in varying degrees. However, you should remember it is not the same as the PERMANENT screen burn in frequently seen in amoleds/oled displays. The former (in LCD displays) goes away when display is off for a while (back to zero % retention everytime) while in the latter (in amoled/oled displays) it stays permanently imprinted and increases in total screen area with time.

keira

does this phone suffers from image retention?

Rimac

Optimistic speculation. I think that LG leave the V20 definitely abandoned to follow the accepted manufacturers trends.

Anonymous

Yes, you're probably right. A July 2018 security update, an unusually long six months update after the last security update of January 2018 can only mean Oreo is not coming soon (if ever). If it does come, I suspect it will be further delayed to November 2018. It's probably a sales strategy by LG to release the LG V40 first (likely in September or October 2018) ahead of the Oreo update for the V20 in November 2018 to ensure better sales for the newer LG V40 flagship. Many V20 owners by then, may consider buying the LG V40 instead, if it is already released before the Oreo arrives for their V20 (which will be 2-years old by then). LG will then have a valid reason NOT to update the V20's Oreo further to Android Peanut butter the following year as the V20 will be beyond the normal 2-year software support period. Certainly makes sense for LG, delaying Oreo for the V20 to the second year to be able to provide only one Major Android software update for the V20. But NO, I won't buy an LG V40 ever especially since it will have the same reduced/dumbed down features as the V30: no removable battery, no ir blaster, no dedicated sd card slot, an ugly 18:9 notched, screen burning amoled screen, and without slimport and without an 'LTE only' feature.

NOMI

The latest Security update is the sign of arriving a big update, which is definitely Oreo for V20, stay tuned :)

Dede

It will come. In August. It's been confirmed

Anonymous

i just got a security update july 2018 i think oreo is not happening

Rimac

The V20 is a phone abandoned by LG after their launching due the recognition of LG of to be guilty of had been manufacturer of the completest phone never made before. And this is not acceptable for the manufacturers community.

Graz

I haven't even had a security update on my V20 since December 2017. This makes the V20 a bad phone in my view and I cannot recommend it. LG's after sales support is disgraceful!

NOMI

Actuality i used almost all the brands one by one, most of them are really disappointed regarding updates, its really terrible thing that we buy a most costly flagship device and wait for latest os for more then 1.5 years, why we are getting these expensive devices if we are helpless to upgrade ourselves with latest softwares? For up to date with latest versions an Android user should buy pixel phone or Android one devices, which are really less sweetness then devices with other brand's own skins, all brands should reconsider about update plans of thier flagship devices at least, Sony is much better then others but not perfect 😞

Anonymous

Yes, LG has horrible software updates support. It's not only the V20 actually. All LG phones have horribly slow or non-existent updates. For people where software updates are very important, they should go with Xiaomi phones.

NOMI

The best and the unlucky phone ever, V20 was the 1st phone with Android 7.0 out of the box, even before launching 1st Pixel phone, but after that this device is a neglected one ever by LG, its doesn't get even Android 7.1 yet, i don't know what is the reason behind but yes LG has totally neglect their 2016 Best Flagship device which is still best smart phone from LG, Android P arriving soon, i think max after couple of month it will be launch, and we Lg V20 users are still waiting for Android O, some news are telling that Oreo update of V20 is coming in August, so what? Its too late to experience the latest OS version in my device.. very depressive policies by LG CO. Limited :(

Anonymous

No, you should research more. Screen burn in is NEVER an issue with ips as what one normally sees as 'screen burn' in an ips LCD display is temporary screen retention. If there is any permanent burn in, it is so to a negligible extent when compared to the several times higher magnitude PERMANENT screen burn in that can happen to amoled/oled/p-oled displays under the same time frame. Here, read this:

g6 user

and who said that ips panels doesn't suffer with screen burning .... you should research more before type something

Anonymous

Oooops sorry lol need to read things twice 8-), but yeah the LG V20 even outperforms the Pixel 2 XL in these tests which is really impressive, especially if you add Gcam into the mix the V20 seems like a very liable option for high end mobile photography which can stand on its own even with 2018 flagships.

Anonymous

Yes. That's what I said. Even the Samsung Note 8 cannot outperform the V20 in photo excellence/photo quality.

Anonymous

Are you blind? The note 8 is really oversharpened and its noise reduction highly deteriorates the detail compared to the V20 which favors a much more natural output with more noise but more detail making it much more flexible. Also the V20 is using a fast shutter speed so in real world situations the note 8 is much more likely to look blurred as it takes a picture slower in dark shots.

Anonymous

Just to add... Samsung does not produce amoled/oled based tvs. If they did, their amoled tvs would cost more but still suffer the same permanent screen burn in issues as LG's oled tvs. Samsung has been doing black propaganda on LG's oled tvs because LG's oleds cost cheaper and many tv manufacturers (Panasonic, Philips and Sony) are getting into oled tv's and source their oled panels from LG. Samsung came up with an 'OLED' sounding tv: the Samsung 'QLED' tv which is actually LCD technology (not OLED). QLED being an LCD technology, don't suffer from permanent screen burn in. However, like all LCD panels, QLED doesn't get the same deep black levels, high color saturation and contrast/dynamic range as true OLED/Amoled displays. In exchange, you have a tv that doesn't suffer from screen burn in. That is what Samsung is advertising with its QLED tvs to combat the popularity of LG's OLED tv panels.

Anonymous

Yes, there's really no reason to complain because not only is it practically invisible, but it is very fleeting as well. It's different when you have it on an amoled/oled display. Once you see it in those screens, it's permanent.

MLAVRA

Thanks! I managed to see some ghosts in the notification area indeed, during the LCD test. However, I personally consider it neglectable and tend to believe that it is not a characteristic of V20 only. If it stays like this, I don't see any reason to complain.

Anonymous

You can see it when you actively spend too much time (30min or more) in a particular app (ex. Google chrome) whereby the chrome app screen remains on continuously due to text input or active use for 30 min or more. The chrome address bar remains visible /gets retained temporarily after switching to another screen. Visibility varies depending on the screen display you switch to next after chrome. Usually, it is more visible under plain gray wallpaper. The V20 has a built in LCD test. You'll see it more clearly in that test. However, it is temporary. It goes away after your phone screen has been off for a while. If you have the H990DS variant, you can access the LCD test by typing the following in the V20's dialer app: *#546368#*990# Tap: SVC Menu - LCD Test - Manual Test In the Manual test, tap repeatedly at the center of the screen until you get to the plain gray screens (6th tap onwards). You should see some retained images normally invisible under the phone's normal use. Again, it goes away after the display has been off for a while. It's different from amoled/oled screen burn that never goes away (permanent) even if you have the screen off for days.

Anonymous

You probably have: - the beauty slider set to the rightmost (maximum blur to erase skin imperfections); - have dirt in the lens of your selfie camera, - have used the regular selfie (not ultrawide selfie) in low light; or - have a defective selfie camera if all selfies you take look blurred regardless of lighting conditions.

Anonymous

Exactly what do you mean by 'open' V20? If you forgot your password, you can do a hard reset (factory reset). You will lose all phone data. After the reset, you will still not be able to use the phone unless you provide user name and password of any active Google account in the phone prior to factory reset.

Rimac

You can expect silence to your ask or results of erratic behaviour. My unit have 14 months of intense use of the same settings as you and performs as new. My second V20, 11 months and the same.

Edward

Anyone knows how to make the selfie cam looks nicer. Everytime we I take selfie it's blurred

MLAVRA

Many users of this forum write about screen retention on V20 but nobody gives any further details. I have been using the phone for 11 months and have never seen any trace of screen retention. Screen timeout is 1 minute, brightness is automatic and, normally, I don't keep static images on forever. It would be nice and useful if some of you, who experienced the problem, can give us more details (level of brightness, which software, keeping of static images, overheating...) so that we know how to avoid screen problems in the future.

kimmy

Does anyone knows the code to open the LG V20 (T-mobile), I can't use my phone and its killing me!!

surfiks

go to setting-> backup and reset -> reset network setting works for me

Anonymous

What V20 variant do you have and what LTE/WCDMA/GSM frequencies does your network broadcast? It's the first thing you should check before going into more extensive network problem troubleshooting.

metall

Hi guys, Do u know how to fix problem with loosing network on lg v20??? its great phone but it drives me crazy. 3 times a day no network and i have to reboot phone. Thanks

alazay

This phone is their best smartphone i ever owned. Better than the samsung s7 exynos as well as the snapdragon variant by far.

Fred

Surprised to find impressed user of lg v20. I've been enjoying it for over a year and find it still faster and better than my newly bought phones whose specs are overrated on papers. I cant get over this one

Anonymous

Actually there's no comparison. Even the newer Samsung Galaxy Note 8 cannot outperform the V20's photo quality in low light. Here, see for yourself. Pay particular attention to sponge Bob, the dollar bill, and the donkey:

vicky

Can somebody will tell me that which phone has better camera in all aspects among V 20 Vs galaxy Note 5? Please

Paul

This is by far the greatest flagship of LG. Sadly, they won't produce anything like this in the future since they want to go with the trend. I mean everything you need is here: Removable battery - I don't need to worry even when I'm out of the grid for three days riding my motorcycle. All i need is a spare battery charging kit and a powerbank and I'm good to go. IR blaster - your remote for your TV, TV box, AC all in your phone while sitting peacefully on your couch Great audio and camera - goes on par even with today's flagship Solid Gaming - yep I spend most of this phone playing games. I'm not buying any phone unless this one dies.

GunDum

I bought this phone on 19th Sept 2017, been using it for months now and bootloop like you usually find on V10? Nope. V20 has none. There's only complain I have though is the screen is inferior compare to Samsung's.... And battery draining is a little bit fast, like 10 mins/1 percent drop, just normal browsing facebook. I don't use Facebook app, very troublesome and sucks. Other than these 2, everything else is totally okey. If you're a hardcore audiophile, get LG V20. If you don't mind losing removable battery and IR sensor, get V35 ThinQ.

Pups

I was also facing same issue, Screen Burn / retention. My device was in Warranty, LG changed display from as its a known issue.

Anonymous

Not as bad as what you see on 6 month old super amoled screens. Also it is barely visible and not permanent. It's gone after the screen has been off for a while or after you change to another screen.

Anonymous

Oreo update for the V20 is moved to August.

Reyax

What about image retention. Screen burn

Coop

I bought mine new for about 250 uk pounds No bootloop Dropped onto concrete and it all survived Fast, stable and great value

Coop

Great piece of kit

Anonymous

no bootloops...at all. mine is a used phone. only issue is battery heavy drain

opeblack

Guys I STRONGLY advise you please don't throw away your money on all tho so called 'latest' flagships. There is hardly anything you are looking for in a phone in 2018 that you won't find in this beauty. Also I have not note that I have NEVER experienced a bootloop not even once. If you happen to get this phone either new or very good fairly used just buy it without hesitation. I'm saying this because I love to get good value for my money. Iphone 8, Iphone x and galaxy s9 are overrated. I happen to know when I started using this and I'm typing from it right now. I'm so happy I didn't waste my money. Cheers.

Anonymous

Me too, I want to buy an iphone X or Samsung Note 8 or Samsung S9, but was also afraid of the bootloop issue - here, take a look: (iPhone X) (Samsung Note 8) (Samsung S9) :) Moral lesson: Every phone can be made up to appear like it had a bootloop issue when there is none as there are always isolated cases of some with factory defects.

Jack

I also want to buy this phn , but afraid of boot loop issue!

Anonymous

$200 for a used but fully functional V20 is a very good buy. Definitely better than wasting money on a new, overpriced, 2018 flagship that is designed to be disposable with microscopic capacity sealed battery.

opeblack

This phone is simply amazing. Lg will never make anything like this again. Lol. I bought mine for 200 dollars as fairly used but almost as new and men I was blown away by its performance. I actually wanted to buy samsung s9 plus but saw this lg v20 and just decided to go for it. I bought a spare battery and my I leave home with confidence. Camera is really good, screen is amazing, phone is pretty fast and doesn't lag no matter what you give it and sound is soooooo good. I will surely keep this for another 2 years. I heard oreo is coming to it so fingers crossed. I recommend this for anyone that wants an all round phone and more.

Anonymous

Advertising for waterproofing is really misleading. Here's more info about ip68 test procedure and why you shouldn't take photos with an ip68 phone while swimming (at the pool or beach) or use it while taking a shower or wash it under running water, and why a non distilled water/fresh water spill (coffee, soda or wine spill over the ip68 phone) doesn't guarantee survival: More reading:

Anonymous

Yes, that removable battery. One of the really useful features of the V20. Spare batteries and extended batteries means you never run out of juice. Much more useful than the overhyped ip68 rating that has caused so much pain, suffering and devastation from naive iPhone, Samsung and Xperia users who thought that their phone's ip68 rating means you can take it to the shower, shoot photos while swimming at the beach or pool, or wash the phone's exterior under running faucet water.

Rimac

Although the best, according my user experience are the 9.300 mAh MUGEN POWER extended battery, only with the supplied back cover remain weak. Since long time ago I use the PERFINE of 6.400 mAh pleased although in this case without NFC.

Aeldor

Well I made a search here on this website for phones with a removable battery with minimum 4gb ram and 2gh processor and the v20 stands out. I am fascinated by the idea of being able to switch batteries whenever I feel like it as opposed to always charging my phones. Now 3200 mah is way too little but I watched a video and saw that the case of v20 is opened by pressing a button, as opposed to prying plastics like the other phones. I was considering samsung j7 duo too but the reviews on it are only in Indian and I cannot see if the case is as easy to open so the v20 definitely wins here, even though an amoled screen is more efficient. But with that underpowered 3200 mah battery who cares ill just carry another battery in my bag lol. Really, to hell with planned obsolescence and non removable batteries and thin phones.

Anonymous

According to your 'correct information', my actual experience of the V20's features (I have two) is not considered 'practical experience'. There you go. Just read the previous post above (or below) and judge for yourself who is providing misinformation.

Anonymous

Yeah right. According to your 'correct information', the V20's IR blaster is a gimmick, the removable battery is unnecessary ,the FM radio is for 'lowly' people, most people don't need dual sim, and a hybrid sd card slot is the same as a dedicated sd card slot. According to your 'correct information', amoleds last as long as ips displays, suffer less permanent screen burn in as ips, and are more color accurate than ips. According to your 'correct information' the S7 has FM radio and dual sim with dedicated slot at the same time (when the truth is, you combined features of two entirely different S7 variants.) According to your 'correct information' people don't need the V20's multitude of 'extra' features because they are gimmicks and the only things important to look for in a phone are 'screen, battery, memory (whatever you mean by that), and camera'. According to your 'correct information', the V20 is not worth buying in 2018 because according to Google, it is not even listed in the top 20 best phones. Look whose talking. It's the toilet bowl telling the rug it's dirty. :)

Anonymous

To spread misinformation using marketing BS is most detrimental to a prospective user who buys into these claims. This is not helping your LG V20 "community", especially with copy pasting the same set of supposed unique features you've listed and reiterating most of the same thing over and over again when some of them are not true for all the V20 models. For people who would like to see how the V20 performs in practice, I would suggest them to go to the V20 subreddit rather than listen to this user who blatantly continues to copy and paste the same thing with a little more detail while providing no practical experience from actually using the phone. Showing bias in the "superiority" of a phone in order to "inform" people is ignorant, and misleads them too.

Aeldor

Looks well engineered. The removable battery, so easy to replace, is definitely a huge temptation. I'm hesitating whether to go for this one or for Ulefone power 5. I could easily carry 2 replacement batteries with me and just swap them when one runs off. So I could always have the phone at my disposal and not bother to consider leaving it a few hours to charge. 3200 mah is definitely insufficient but hmm, perhaps it could last me for 4-5 hrs of browsing... And screw videos, browsing is what really kills batteries.

Aeldor

Lol, if I wanted a Samsung, I'd get a Samsung. I'm quite satisfied with my Xiaomi though. But I love how you can easily swap the battery of this phone. Very intelligently made and user friendly.

Anonymous

... Unless if you are not completely satisfied and happy with your phone. Mind telling me exactly what phone model is your main driver, and why you believe it is way better than say, the V20?

Anonymous

Say what you want. It won't change things about the V20's true versatility, longevity and worth. In the end, if your needs are as simple as you say, (that is, screen, battery, memory, and camera), then be happy, celebrate and promote your happiness/satisfaction of your phone in your own forum and let satisfied/delighted V20 owners do the same in their forum.

Anonymous

You have to validate first if the connection problem is with the wifi source/router, the network, the phone, or any combination thereof. The wifi router has option for 5.0Ghz and 2.4Ghz. Try it both ways. Check the network if it is having any internet connectivity problems by trying to connect your PC, laptop, or other devices to it. If there's no problem with the network and Wi-Fi router, check the phone. Go to 'wifi settings' --- > tap on the 3 dots --- > saved wifi. Delete ALL saved wifi hotspots and try to reconnect to your wifi by inputting the wifi password. Repeat procedure if it fails once. If it fails again, while other devices are ok, try hard (factory) reset of your V20. If the problem persists only with the V20 even after factory reset and not other wifi devices, bring your V20 to the service center. Do the same sort of elimination process with your bluetooth problem. (You were not very clear about what sort of bluetooth problem you have - whether the problem was connecting wireless earbuds, connecting a smartwatch, or transferring files via bluetooth to another device so I couldn't be more specific.)

Rimac

Look at "Wi-Fi Automatic" App. Perhaps can resolve the issue.

Anonymous

Can someone here help me with my LG's wifi connectivity issue? I've had my V20 for about 1 year and 3 months now. I've lost the ability to have the wifi enabled and have it connect to any wifi connection about 5 months after I bought it :( I tried all the recommended steps that I can find in the internet. But it simply wouldn't work. LG has released the latest Android version for it and I had it updated last March. It worked for about an hour. Then simply reverted back to its problematic state. Even my bluetooth connection wouldn't work. Any ideas would be greatly appreciated :) Thanks

Anonymous

I do not have envy over the V20. I'm saying this for the third time, your feature list is way out of proportions for what the phone is valued for today and you've continued to deny the mistake I've pointed out in your list on its uniqueness. Hence why I am convinced you have an unnatural bias towards a company who produced this one phone, as do the other people arguing with you think based on your impulse to "defend" the reputation of the V20, much like a keyboard warrior now more than a salesman.

Medstar1

Wow...LG should hire you for their marketing department'cause as we all know they definitely can use the help. Poor marketing and shying away from all of the features that made their devices like the V20 stand apart from the herd has made the LG mobile division an endangered species. In this day of $1K flagships a sensibly priced phone with all of the features of the V20 would be welcomed. Not only would it bring those that defected back into the fold but would attract a whole new demographic. Wake up LG and go back to your roots. Trying to be more Samsung-like will only make consumers cut out the middle man and purchase Samsung devices. I've had a lot of different phones in my time and I have to say the LG V20 is one of the best, feature packed devices made.and at today's prices you just can't get more bang for the buck in my honest opinion.

Anonymous

Did I answer your question properly? Surely it's not a 'poor' answer again. :) You know what? LG should pay me for promoting the V20 here in this forum... But then again, my criticism against crippled new flagship phones do not only apply to Samsung's phones. They apply to LG's newer flagship phones as well, so no, LG is angry at me because their older V20 model is selling more than their newer phone models. :) And while you're reading this, do yourself a favor. Buy an LG V20 H990DS (B&O or non-B&O version) and you'll see just what is it that makes me passionate (or 'brainwashed' in your terms) about this phone. :) Make no mistake however. I still love my Xiaomi Mi Max 2 for the big screen, big battery (even if it's sealed), excellent software updates and extensive theming options. It's the closest to the V20 in terms of features and good pricing... not the highway robbery price modern FM-less and IR-less flagship phones with microscopic batteries are now selling.

Anonymous

And to answer your question why the V20 isn't listed as the best phone in the world, simple: websites simply don't list old models that are no longer current or are already superseded by newer models. Doing so will make the website listing look old and dated and no one will be interested in reading their articles. Besides, website sponsorship always highlights new products, not old ones.

Anonymous

It actually looks good not only in paper, but in real life as well. The 14 features I mentioned below? They're really worth having and worth envying. :) Friends are amazed how everywhere I go, I can control mall appliances, their car stereos, workplace projectors, airport tv's, hotel aircons, and even karaoke players. They're amazed how my V20 phone could control everything. When we're in a low signal area in the workplace, they're amazed how my V20 can hold on to a very weak LTE signal and not change at all to 3G/WCDMA (V20's LTE only mode) while their phones automatically shift to the agonizingly slow WCDMA/3G signal. They get even more jealous when I can have 'LTE only' on sim 1 slot for superfast downloads, while still being able to receive phone calls on sim 2 slot. Many of them had to sacrifice their hybrid sim 2 slot for sd storage because they have lots of media files and only 32/64GB of internal storage. As for me, I get to use the 2 sim slots while still having the dedicated sd card slot available for my 200GB sd card. When we're on a whole day bus trip, they get bored riding and they listen to their repetitive mp3 music collection while I enjoy live FM radio and news broadcasts. By 2PM, when we get back, they're already tethered to their wall chargers while I'm on my second battery pack moving around the workplace with no limitations. The V20's feature benefits do not stop there. When they share their phone's data connection to their laptops, their hotspot ID (SSID) is visible to their bosses and other colleagues who then ask for their wifi/hotspot password while the V20's hotspot ID remains invisible. When we're on a business travel and booked to a hoteI and need to view photos and videos on the hotel's LCD tv monitor (usually old model without wifi direct mirroring capability), they have to transfer files from their phones to their laptops or thumb drives first before they can view them on the hotel tv screen. For the V20, I just use my slimport adapter to mirror the V20 screen instantly to the hotel LCD tv. In summary, if you don't have the feature in your phone, you don't know what you've been missing all along.

Anonymous

Obviously you couldn't find any articles to validate your purchase with totally explains the self validation here.

Anonymous

Poor answer

Anonymous

The best phone in the world? You don't need to Google that. :) It is actually either of the two: 1. The one that you have or 2. The one you don't have but are envious of. :)

samsung user

These days giant smartphone companies only care about profits, I think my samsung S4 is still a very good performer, the only problem is the screen it looks awful now. I try to buy newer models of samsung cos im used to its ui, but the problem is they removed almost all of my favorite features, the IR & removable battery. so i resort to xiaomi phones for the IR, and it is cheap but quality. from what ive observed it is only natural for websites to exclude older good phones like the note 3, s5, lgv20 etc when searching for top phones in 2018, to give way to newer phones. thats marketing. when the truth is, even phones from 2014 still performs very well today, but they force you to buy a new one by not supporting it with software updates anymore, otherwise they go bankrupt. And that my friend is the TRUTH

Anonymous

haha blah blah this blah blah that. I never denied that it looks good on paper! it does! Anyways I just googled "what is the best phone in the world?" and it gave me a lot of articles including one by Business Insider (Top 20 phones in the world) and Stuff Magazine (Top 10 phones you can buy right now) and the V20 wasn't on any of the their lists. There are other lists but none of them have the V20, too. Google it for yourself and see. If you add "2016" to the search only then do you you see the V20 making it into lists (which is totally expected) Please point me to a current article that lists the V20 as still being a top performing phone, doesn't even need to be no. 1! Thanks.

Anonymous

Yes planned obsolescence is here to stay. Manufacturers have learned to neglect long-term features necessary for phone longevity and replaced them instead with faddish features like curved screens, wireless charging, etc. As with all fads, they come and go. It's curved screens now with 18:9 aspect ratio and iphones like notches. Soon however, aspect ratios will change again and foldable screens will be 'chic' and 'in'. In the meantime, people will still have IR based remote control devices, still have FM radios, still use wired headphones, and still use local expandable sd card storage (possibly bigger capacities than 400gb), and still use lithium ion/lithium polymer batteries.

Rimac

LG betrayed the honor code of planned obsolescence by honestly doing the V20. He will not repeat it again.